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How Neo-Nazis Exploit Progressives |
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by gehrig
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03 Mar 2003
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Golly, guess there really is a wolf after all. |
No War For Israel To Hold International Public Awareness Campaign
by Kate Turner Monday March 03, 2003 at 01:17 PM
katiekittyturner (at) yahoo.com
RICHMOND, Virginia - No War For Israel, an International Coalition of individuals and groups opposed to the War on Iraq, announced today that they will sponsor an international public awareness campaign starting on Friday, March 8, 2003.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
No War For Israel To Hold International Public Awareness Campaign
RICHMOND, Virginia - No War For Israel, an International Coalition of individuals and groups opposed to the War on Iraq, announced today that they will sponsor an international public awareness campaign starting on Friday, March 8, 2003.
NoWarForIsrael.com was started two weeks ago and traffic to the site has increased to over 30,000 unique visitors a day.
National Vanguard [URL removed] has recently joined the No War For Israel Coalition and has created a, "Guide to the War on Iraq." The Guide is an information resource for those seeking more information about the War on Iraq. Two entertaining Flash animations, "Behind the Scenes of World War 3" and "Terror-Free Tots," Johnny Dixon's anti-war song, "I don't understand" and leaflets to distribute are located on the National Vanguard [URL removed] site.
Alternative Country Music Star Johnny Dixon added his voice to No War For Israel this past Wednesday. Johhny Dixon states, on the National Vanguard [URL removed] Web site, "I felt, and feel, horrible as an American citizen that we are bullying tiny nations that only want to be left alone; nations that could never pose a threat to America.
"We are citizens in a democratic country. Every innocent person killed in this senseless war is a reflection upon us.
"We must begin to recognize and understand why these things are happening and stop supporting the war for Greater Israel."
Johnny Dixon recorded an anti-Iraq War song, "I don't understand," and is distributing it through the National Vanguard Web site [URL removed].
Recently, No War For Israel Supporters in Halle, Germany, distributed information packages and leaflets at an anti-war demonstration held on February 25, 2003. [URL removed]
On the first day of the No War For Israel International Public Awareness Campaign announcement, over 12,000 leaflets were pledged by individuals in four countries and 10 states. Daily updates of the pledges leading up to the Friday, March 8th, literature drive can be found on the front page of National Vanguard [URL removed].
No War for Israel is a Coalition of individuals and organizations seeking a peaceful resolution to the Israeli conflict with Iraq.
[URL removed].
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Well finally!
by It's about time! Monday March 03, 2003 at 02:21 PM
Finally people are mobilizing against funding Israel's unjust, immoral war against the Palestinians and all it's well-earned enemies (who would just let any supremacist group just come in and take over???)
I don't care if some of the groups behind this may be not as progressive in other areas as I would like, but at least SOMEBODY is finally DOING something to STOP ISRAEL AND RACIST ZIONISTS now!
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Priceless. Wendy buys Nazi again.
by gehrig Monday March 03, 2003 at 02:30 PM
Awwwwww, Wendy, maybe you might want to take a closer look at who National Vanguard _is_ before you fall for their stuff.
From Nizkor: "The editor of the JHR since 1991 and, with the possible exception of David Irving, the most knowledgeable of history (he has a Master's degree in Modern European history from Indiana University), Mark Weber arrived on the revisionist scene with his appearance as a defense witness at Ernst Zuendel's "free speech" Holocaust trial. Weber denied to me any racial or anti-Semitic feelings, and claimed that "I don't know anything more about the neo-Nazi movement in Germany than what I read in the papers" (1994b). Weber was once the news editor of the National Vanguard, the voice of William Pierce's neo-Nazi, anti- Semitic organization, the National Alliance. Weber also does not deny his comments in a 1989 interview for the University of Nebraska Sower, regarding his fear that the U.S. was becoming "a sort of Mexicanized, Puerto Ricanized country" due to the failure of "white Americans" to reproduce adequately. And on February 27, 1993, Weber was the victim of a Wiesenthal Center sting operation when researcher Yaron Svoray, calling himself Ron Furey, met with Weber in a cafe to discuss The Right Way, a bogus magazine created to trick neo-Nazis. The meeting was secretly filmed by CBS but Weber quickly figured out that Svoray "was an agent for someone" and "was obviously lying." Weber left not realizing that the Wiesenthal Center would make an ordeal out of this event. "
Ooooooops -- there she goes endorsing Nazis again.
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www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/skeptic-magazine/skeptic-4.html
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Final comment from @%<: "I don't care if some of the groups behind this may be not as progressive in other areas as I would like" -- maybe that's because they're Nazis?
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See also:
http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/03/1579405.php
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Re: How Neo-Nazis Exploit Progressives |
by gehrig
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03 Mar 2003
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Forgot to note -- this exchange took place on Indybay this afternoon.
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Good News |
by ML
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03 Mar 2003
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They seem to have finally hidden the article above.
It's kind of sad that the SF IMC collective needs so much outside help to figure out that they are being exploited by neo-Nazis. One would hope, given the fact that a rather significant percentage of their Newswire seems to feature this sort of material, that their awareness would be at a little higher level by now. |
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One More Comment (repost From Indybay) |
by gehrig
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04 Mar 2003
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The pattern
by gehrig Tuesday March 04, 2003 at 07:07 AM
Nessie: "What I'm saying is they are not germane to the topic at hand."
And this is the Dismantle Israel movement's blindspot. Thanks for putting it so succinctly.
I have demonstrated case after case -- documented case after case -- where overtly antisemitic sites were being used to support the rhetoric of anti-Zionists.
There's a word for it: pattern.
Of _course_ you'd like to ignore the pattern, Nessie.
Of _course_ you'd like to pretend that these are all single, isolated incidents, freak accidents, oddities.
The Hoffman II reference was just an oddity.
The Ummah.net reference was just an oddity.
The National Vanguard reference was just an oddity.
The "Kosher Task Scam" reference was just an oddity.
The ABBC site was just an oddity.
The "Ashkenazis aren't really Jews" reference was just an oddity.
The "Reporters Notebook" reference was just an oddity.
The Joe Sobran reference was just an oddity.
The Mark Weber reference in IMC-Jerusalem was just an oddity.
All isolated incidents, where progressives _just happened_ to fall for neo-Nazi rhetoric. Because that's what your blindspot _demands_ you view them as oddities.
Nothing to worry about, folks! These aren't the droids you want.
That's why you've got to sweep each one under the carpet at the earliest possible opportunity -- you have to get them out of the reader's mindspace as quickly as possible so that there's no danger of realizing that, hey, it _is_ a pattern, and a very bad one, and one that says something about your movement, and your inability to distinguish your own rhetoric from that of the Nazis -- while simultaneously accusing "the Jews" of acting like Nazis.
It's a pattern, Nessie, it speaks to the heart of the Dismantle Israel movement, and you're in denial about it.
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