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The fowls have come home to roost in NZ. |
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by Viktor.
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20 May 2002
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Peter and Sue Doig spoke at a news conference. |
 Peter and Sue Doig spoke at a news conference. |
Peter and Sue Doig spoke at a news conference with Detective Inspector Steve Rutherford (right). Picture / Fotopress
Pizza worker told to lie on the floor, then killed
16.05.2002
11.50am - by PATRICK GOWER and NZPA
MORE - The gunman who has killed two men during robberies in the past week forced pizza worker Marcus Doig to lie on the ground before he shot him in the head.
Mr Doig had already handed over what police said was a "pathetic" amount of cash, believed to be about $250.
The revelation about how Mr Doig died came this morning from the 23-year-old's parents, Peter and Sue, as they spoke publicly for the first time since the killing.
Police also revealed that the weapon used was a cut-down semi-automatic rifle.
Peter and Sue Doig said their son was doing nothing wrong and was co-operating with the gunman who robbed the Pakuranga Pizza Delivery Company eight days ago.
Mr and Mrs Doig spoke of the execution of their 23-year-old son at a media conference in Auckland today in the hope it would help police track down his killer after he claimed a second victim yesterday.
The same gunman is believed to have also shot dead without provocation ASB Bank teller John Vaughan, 44, in a lunchtime raid in the Auckland suburb of Mangere Bridge.
Today Mrs Doig said they felt a feeling of utter despair at the news of yesterday's slaying and it took them back to the terrible night they heard the news of Marcus' death.
Mr Doig said the family was stunned and could not believe it had happened a second time. He said Marcus had co-operated with the gunman and had given him money, but was executed anyway.
"After he got the money that was his chance to run. But then he turned round and said to Marcus, 'Get down on the floor'. "While he was getting down on the floor with his face facing the floor he got a bullet in the back of the head.
"How can you believe that?
"We don't go to war that way," Mr Doig said.
He said Marcus was never a threat to the gunman and his killing was no more than an execution. In a carefully controlled voice, Mr Doig repeated the police plea for public help to track down the killer.
"Please give the police a call," Mr Doig said.
He said to tell Mr Vaughan's family how sorry they were over his senseless death seemed inadequate. "I can't pull words out of the dictionary that describe such a thing.
"Words you use like sorry and disbelief are so simple and common. I cannot think of the words. They are not going to bring that chap back. They are not going to bring Marcus back." Mr Doig said when they got the news yesterday of the latest killing they were "absolutely stunned".
"We went into the same sort of shock we went into the night Steve (inquiry head Detective Inspector Steve Rutherford) came around and told us about Marcus.
"We were stunned this could happen again." The news yesterday was delivered 24 hours after Marcus Doig's funeral and came, said Mr Doig, as the family was still wondering how to rebuild their lives without him.
He said they had not thought about the gunman whom police have called a cold-blooded and ruthless killer.
Mr Doig said he did not know what he would do if he confronted him. "I have no particular feeling toward the guy -- bad or good." He said he believed a lack of discipline within society led to the increasing violence which had culminated in Marcus' death.
The responsibility to bring about change rested with the Government but had to be driven by society, Mr Doig said.
More discipline was needed in schools and the police needed more power and resources.
"If we put those three things in place that ought to make it work. "There are many parents who want discipline but it is lost once the kids get to school and there is nothing there because it is influenced by other groups."
Mr and Mrs Doig described their son as a "wonderful, wonderful gentle boy".
"He was a sincere, caring, fun-loving person who had respect for people. He had a lot of fun but knew the boundaries," Mr Doig said.
He said they had discussed the dangers of his job but thought the worst he could get was a punch in the face from someone who opened the door when he delivered a pizza.
Mr Rutherford said more than 40 police had now joined the hunt for the gunman.
The hotline had received "dozens and dozens" of calls from around the country but none had yet named the killer.
He said it was not scaremongering or sensationalising, but realistic to say the gunman was capable of killing again.
"This is a young individual completely out of control. To say he is dangerous is an understatement." Mr Rutherford repeated the police warning for businesses to "have a very good look at their security" and co-operate if confronted by the gunman.
"Even that might not be any insurance but you have got to do your best. "We are doing our utmost but we can't put a policeman on every corner," he said.
Mr Rutherford said yesterday's killing elevated the status of the gunman to that of a serial killer. He said the police hoped he would give himself up without a fight.
"We don't want any more human carnage but, on the other side of the coin, the stakes are high."
Mr Rutherford said all police had been warned to look after their own safety and that of the public if they confronted the man.
However, he refused to elaborate on what orders the armed offenders squad had been given, or if the man was to be shot on sight.
Police were also looking at other robberies or offences that might be linked with the gunman. A psychological profile might also be produced, he said.
Steve Rutherford said although it was clear the robber was a "madman" he did not believe he was insane.
Police had already had a plan in place to catch the killer before the latest death, the killing of a teller during a bank robbery in Mangere Bridge yesterday, but now had to "life the ante".
Mr Rutherford said police commissioner Rob Robinson would visit the inquiry headquarters later today.
The 40 detectives working on the case were adequate for now, he said.
"Anything I need, I can have."
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Observation: The fowls have come home to roost in NZ.
An evil under current operates just beneath the surface in New Zealand.
by Viktor. 10:42pm Thu May 16 '02 comment#2532
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Murdered bank teller. |
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20 May 2002
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by Viktor. 12:32am Thu May 16 '02 comment#2524
Murdered bank teller protected fellow worker.
16.05.2002
9.00am
Murdered Auckland bank teller John Vaughan paid with his life when he tried to protect a fellow worker from a gunman police have called a "cold-blooded killer".
The gunman, who police believe also shot dead pizza bar worker Marcus Doig a week ago, began screaming obscenities at a woman behind the inquiry counter at the Mangere Bridge branch of the ASB Bank shortly after midday yesterday.
The man was armed with a sawn-off rifle, believed to be a .22 calibre, and demanded money.
However, ASB managing director Hugh Burrett said Mr Vaughan stepped from behind a protected, high-security teller area and told the gunman the woman had no money.
The gunman switched his attention to Mr Vaughan who followed orders and filled a bag with money.
Mr Burrett said Mr Vaughan was standing with his hands in the air in a surrender position when the gunman, who already had the money, shot him in the head.
Mr Vaughan died in Middlemore Hospital last night after medical staff had kept him alive on a life-support machine long enough for his elderly mother Margaret and his nine-year-old son Ben to say goodbye.
Mr Burrett said the gunman was abusive and screaming when he first approached the woman.
"John said to him, 'Look she has got no money, I am the one with the money, you come through here and I will look after you'," Mr Burrett told NZPA today.
He said Mr Vaughan did exactly as his training had taught him and obeyed the orders of the gunman without hesitation or "aggro".
"He was standing there with his hands up and he got shot. In these situations you have got to say is there anything you can do if you have got a mad man or whatever he is."
He said bank staff were shattered at the brutal death of a "lovely fellow and a very likeable and genuine man".
He said his efforts to protect the woman probably cost him his life, which was particularly devastating because the killer had the money.
"Normally they (bank robbers) would leave and you wouldn't have this.
"It has hit all of us."
Mr Burrett said a reward had yet to be discussed with police but the bank would provide money if the police asked.
Yesterday, police said if anyone who knew the killer or his accomplice was motivated by money, police would see they were looked after financially if they gave information that led to an arrest.
"We haven't had that discussion, obviously we would help if we could. We will do what we have to do," Mr Burrett said.
Mr Burrett said ASB had searched internationally for the state-of-the-art security already installed in the bank, but would fully review security after the tragedy.
"We have got the best that we believe you can get. But having said that, when things like this happen you have got to review it. You have got to ask the questions and go over it and under it and around it again."
He said short of running a fortress there was not a lot more banks could do to guard against the sort of armed robbery which happened yesterday.
However, he said he doubted the killing would lead to the closure of some branches.
Mr Burrett said staff who had been next to Mr Vaughan when he was gunned down could take years to recover from the emotional trauma.
Counsellors had been with bank staff and Mr Vaughan's elderly and frail mother Margaret.
Mr Burrett said when he first learned of the robbery his worst fear had come to fruition.
It got worse moments later when he learned Mr Vaughan had been shot, then that he would not live, and finally, that he had died at 7.55pm yesterday.
He said staff would be offered whatever counselling they needed. Security had been increased at many bank branches, he said.
As the hunt for the gunman widened and detectives from central Auckland and Hamilton joined the inquiry team, the armed offenders squad was placed on high alert after a full briefing on the killing.
Police spokeswoman Noreen Hegarty said uniformed police had also been fully briefed on a description of the man and the black or dark blue car with a spoiler on the boot which was believed to have been the getaway car.
However, Ms Hegarty would not confirm that uniformed police were all armed as they hunted for the killer.
"All the staff in Auckland City and Counties-Manukau have been fully briefed on the modus operandi and the description of this offender." She said all police knew what firearms were available.
"They are fully aware of who they can contact at short notice." She said numerous calls had been made to the police hotline but none of the callers gave a name.
The fowls have come home to roost.
Observation:
Bank security in general is no more than a joke in New Zealand. Persons employed to stand outside the banks are not armed and incidentally the banks avoid employing such persons if they can get away with it. Two weeks ago I said to a female bank teller that there is no security whatsoever for her. I was telling her that when I was in Hong Kong the guard in front of the bank held a 5 shot browning gun and, an american revolver. There is a small slot in front of the teller to collect ones money.
Approximately 12 months later I was back in Hong Kong and this guard said "Hello you are back again". I was quite amazed that he rememberd me from 12 ago. Unfortunately it is the shyster lawyers and embezzler accountants that would be better put to rest. In most cases the persons who lose their life are the fools who go to help. The one that lives writes a book and makes a lot of money. If married will the bank pay out say NZD$200.000.00 to his wife or sweet fuck all. Of course the banks and the jews are as corrupt as any other organization. |
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Slain teller's name will not be forgotten. |
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20 May 2002
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Flowers outside Wanganui's ASB Bank branch in memory of slain Mangere Bridge teller John Vaughan. Picture / Wanganui Chronicle
Slain teller's name will not be forgotten says bank
21.05.2002
9.00am
Nine-year-old Ben Vaughan will go to his dad's funeral today knowing his father's name will not be forgotten.
John Vaughan, a 44-year-old bank teller, was gunned down in a bank raid on Auckland's Mangere Bridge branch of the ASB Bank last week, moments after he had handed a robber nearly $6000 in cash.
Mr Vaughan died after diverting the gunman's attention from a woman colleague behind the inquiries counter and persuading the gunman he could give him money.
Moments later he was lying on the floor with a bullet in his head. He died in Middlemore Hospital about eight hours later.
Today the managing director of the ASB Bank in Auckland, Hugh Burrett, said the bank was close to finalising details of a permanent memorial to Mr Vaughan.
The memorial would probably be a scholarship to help young people make the transition from youth to adulthood.
"Maybe we will offer two scholarships a year to children of the ASB Bank staff. It will be Outward Bound, Spirit of Adventure, leadership development and at an appropriate time we would like Ben to accept one of those scholarships as well."
Mr Burrett said staff from the Mangere Bridge branch were coping with the horror of seeing a well-loved and respected colleague gunned down.
"It is tough but getting together and talking about it helps the process. They are doing as well as could be expected."
Mr Burrett said it was hoped the bank would re-open in temporary premises soon, while the branch could be refurbished to help erase the painful memories of last Wednesday when Mr Vaughan died.
He said the bank would also look again at security, including screens which operate within milliseconds to provide a barrier between tellers and bank robbers. The screens are already installed in several branches around Auckland.
All ASB Bank branches will close at 1pm today as a mark of respect and to allow as many staff as possible to attend the 2pm funeral.
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Observation: The Auckland Savings Bank is 75% owned by the Commonwealth Bank of Ausraila. A great number of those employed in New Zealand should be thrown out on the street, and replaced by the more highly intelligent asian, japanese, and the chinese race.
These persons are harder to be outwited by the off the street criminals. We will be posting a very slick scam perpetrated against the ASB bank staff in Papanui Christchurch New Zealand. There is only one type of security, bullet proof glass and a small opening to collect whatsoever. |
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NAB slashes frequent-flyer points deal |
by Viktor.
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20 May 2002
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May 21 2002
Agencies
The Federal Treasurer, Peter Costello, has asked the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) to investigate a decision by the National Australia Bank (NAB) to overhaul its loyalty rewards program.
The NAB has told its 150,000 Gold Rewards customers it was slashing a third off the value of accumulated points, and that the move was retrospective.
From June 15 it would cost 1.5 points to buy a frequent-flyer point rather than one-to-one.
The NAB said Qantas was charging the bank more to buy frequent-flyer points since Ansett's demise, but claimed the change was driven by customers wanting greater choice of rewards.
The Australian Consumers Association (ACA) said today the NAB's actions could prompt customers to switch banks.
ACA finance policy officer Catherine Wolthuizen said customers were justifiably angry over being shortchanged.
"Since the demise of Ansett, Qantas can really charge what it likes for frequent-flyer points, but by the same token the National Australia Bank is enjoying massive profits and growth in its credit card business so really it's difficult for it to argue it can't afford those increases, particularly when the product and the frequent-flyer points are so popular with its customers," she told the Nine Network.
Ms Wolthuizen said retrospectivity was particularly disturbing as customers had earned points in good faith.
She advised customers to examine terms and conditions of their original credit card agreement.
"But perhaps many of them might be better served in thinking about looking to another bank to provide them with a credit card," Ms Wolthuizen said.
She said contrary to NAB's claims, the ACA had found customers were satisfied with frequent-flyer schemes as opposed to other reward schemes.
"We'll wait and see what it (the NAB) puts up in its place and whether that is more attractive to customers because otherwise they will walk," Ms Wolthuizen said.
"Customers from the National Australia Bank should consider looking around, seeing what the other banks are prepared to offer them ... and walking if they feel they'll get a better deal elsewhere because it's become quite easy to transfer your credit card points and value and credit across to another bank."
On its website, the NAB buried news of the cut in value of Qantas points - and introduction of a $33 annual fee - in an announcement of a link-up with Harvey World Travel. |
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Victor=IMC Spambot Denizen from Downunder |
by ML
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20 May 2002
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Thinking a little more where I've seen this sort of stuff before (pointless reposts from the yellow press, accompanied by a few brief remarks that indicate a limited worldview, accompanied by a mild case of anti-semitism, then adds more completely unrelated stories as comments to his own articles), I researched a little further.
"Victor" seems to have migrated here from below the equator. For instance, see:
http://adelaide.indymedia.org.au/front.php3?article_id=2477&group=webcast
Or simply search on the Adelaide IMC under "victor". He seems to have appeared there around April 19. |
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