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Israel starts up factories of death |
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by Jim Gene
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29 Mar 2002
Modified: 31 Mar 2002 |
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1000s have already been killed in the death factories today located near Hebron in under ground compound our sources working undercover in the IDF said |
(HEBRON 29 MARCH 2002)-Sources inside the IDF relayed information stating that 1000s have already been killed in the death factories today located near Hebron in under ground compound our sources working undercover in the IDF said there’s no stopping the butcher Sharon, “he is set on killing every last Palestinian on the earth if you are Palestinian. Don’t let the IDF load you onto the trucks cause if the do you are dead.” The factories of death have the capacity to kill 800 per hour per unit; there are 5 units that consist of off loading system of truck docks and escalators type load moving devices
That go to gas chambers and onto the Incinerators the ashes are pumped under ground. The real question is will the world Governments do any thing to stop this crime against humanity? Regrettable it seems not. Our sources in the IDF said the crates that contain the poison are label made in the U.S.A so it seems at least the U.S. is a party to this genocide. |
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Has happened before |
by concerned
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29 Mar 2002
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Could this be true if it is what’s next?? The facts are a whole lot of reporters have been shot by Israel maybe cause there hiding something like this. A few international observers where killed in that area this week too. Not much news is getting out of there now. This should be checked out the only problem is Israel will not let anyone in to verify this. |
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Spammed that puppy all over the network, didn't you. |
by gehrig
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29 Mar 2002
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Guess it was just a matter of time before it got here -- just as fact-free and incendiary as everywhere else you spammed it.
@%< |
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Pure BS |
by ML
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29 Mar 2002
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The wll-made point about this being spammed to the entire IMC network simply compounds the offense of the fabrication of this story.
Absolutely no proof is offered. We are expected to simply take this incredible and unverified report and believe it.
I believe that it is more likely that our readers will see the post above for what it is -- nothing but incendiary and totally false propaganda.
I share the concern that Israel's government is commiting war crimes on a daily basis. There is plenty of true material about this that needs to be put out. Posting lies like the above simply tends to discredit the factual reports of human rights violations.
In fact, unless it is immediately verified by independent sources, I would be in favor of hiding it, since fabrications aren't news. |
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Same Asinine Comment Spammed Also |
by anti-spam
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29 Mar 2002
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It should be noted that the same stupid comment from "concerned" has also been spammed out attached to this story as some kind of excuse why there are NO OTHER REPORTS that verify the charges above.
How about some evidence? |
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intent? |
by jay
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29 Mar 2002
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ML, I think you're right that crap like this undermines the effort to get the real message out.
Do you suppose that was the intent? Anyone with even the mildest intelligence can see through this nonsense and would not post it everywhere out of 'concern'. Am I misjudging or is this spam *meant* to discredit real news? |
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Nah, it's just a net-belch. |
by gehrig
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29 Mar 2002
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"Do you suppose that was the intent? Anyone with even the mildest intelligence can see through this nonsense and would not post it everywhere out of 'concern'. Am I misjudging or is this spam *meant* to discredit real news?"
As I see it, there are two possibilities.
1) It's some sort of se-e-ecret Zionist plot to undermine the value of the IMCs in reporting the Palestinian side. Which, given the nature of open publishing, this particular post could only do if you were pathologically stupid enough to think it might be real.
2) It's just some Bobby Meade wannabe who thinks that pouring rhetorical oil on rhetorical fires is just a great and funny joke.
My considerable experience dealing with net-Nazis suggests that many of them don't give a damn whether they've posted something which is easily proven false, as long as they've had a chance to vent their irrational hatred. To assign any deeper meaning than that to one of their blurts is to give it more credit than it deserves. And that strikes me as, by Occam's razor, _much_ more likely an explanation for this dollop of idiocy than any kind of international black op oogabooga.
The far more serious question for the IMCs is what happened to the Palestine IMC, which earlier today was hacked to redirect to an anti-Arafat site. I'll be the first to condemn crap like that -- not for any great love of Arafat (whom I consider the Inspector Clouseau of international politics and a long-standing barrier to legitimate Palestinian aspirations), but because of the affront against the concept of the IMC network itself -- and I'm glad they got it ironed out quickly.
@%< |
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Who do you consider viable sources? |
by Curious
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30 Mar 2002
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What independent sources would lend credence to this story?
A list would be helpful. |
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Any Idependent Confirmation Will Do |
by ML
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30 Mar 2002
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Curious,
I'm not certain what you are getting at in your comment. Since there has been no suggestion from ANY other source that there is the slightest bit of truth to the post above, it's hard to even speak of their credibility. Certainly if there was another post like the one above (vague, anonymous sources who make damning comments that are hard to believe, even given the mutual hatred on both sides in the Middle East) it would not suffice.
How about some pictures, a map detailing where this is supposedly taking place, a sources willing to go on record with this accusation? Any of those might lend credence to the above.
I doubt if there is any such confirming material, for the simple reason that the story is a fabrication. |
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would sharon do this ? |
by sound famialar
you know (unverified) |
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30 Mar 2002
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http://jerusalem.indymedia.org/news/2002/03/1269.php
No Movement Possible: Inhabitants of the city are under complete curfew. There is absolutely no freedom of movement, even for ambulances, doctors or international agencies, such as the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC). There is no medical access. Palestine Red Crescent medical relief workers have not been permitted to provide medical services to the local population. Israeli forces are firing on anyone walking out on the streets.
On Thursday, based on fears of an Israeli re-invasion, more than 500 inhabitants, including foreign nationals, lined up in the mud and rain at the Qalandiya checkpoint—the only exit point from the city allowed by Israel—begging Israeli soldiers to allow them to escape. In response, Israeli soldiers fired over their heads, exacerbating the panic and causing most to simply return to Ramallah.
Israeli Forces Using Human Shields: Israeli soldiers are occupying an increasing number of private residences and detaining the residents collectively in single rooms, with little or no access to telephone lines, news coverage or even food and water. In some cases, tens of civilians (including entire families) are being held in one room. Meanwhile, Israeli occupation soldiers have taken up armed positions in the houses or apartments of these residents. Civilian detainees include foreign nationals.
No Access to the City: The ICRC, the UN and other humanitarian agencies are unable to access the city or to access the civilian detainees and other prisoners.
Food Resources Limited: There is no food entering Ramallah and no one is allowed to restock. There will shortly be a food and drinking water crisis. Some parts of Ramallah are already without water altogether. Israeli soldiers are also eating the food of residents while taking up positions in their houses.
Electricity Being Cut: Large parts of Ramallah are without electricity and heat. The weather has been raining and unseasonably cold - residents have been struggling to keep warm. The lack of electricity also means that residents are without television and any news reporting of the situation outside their homes. Many residents of the city rely on cellular phones for communication and without electricity they are unable to recharge their phones. Therefore, the population is being held in isolation and there is increasing fear and confusion. Also, some telephone landlines have been cut.
Prisoners Being Taken: Israeli forces are taking Palestinians prisoner, in the streets and in house-to-house searches. Israeli troops are calling upon all male residents between the ages of 16 and 40 in some neighborhoods to “surrender”. The wounded are being treated roughly and being denied medical access. Now, their fate is unknown. There are reports of summary execution of some prisoners. The ICRC does not have access to them to ensure adherence to international law, and specifically the Geneva Conventions.
Gratuitous Vandalism and Destruction: There are on-going spiteful acts of destruction. Most commonly, Israeli tanks are driving over and flattening cars whether on the streets or parked on pavements in front of residences. Personal property inside houses is being destroyed in house-to-house searches. |
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Yeah He Does |
by ML
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31 Mar 2002
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Sound Famialar [sic],
Sure he would, and he appears to be doing it, but are you somehow implying a connection between that and the fictional post above?
That's what I mean about undermining the credibility of reports such as the one you made. There's fact and there's fiction. If you leave people confused about which is which, you do neither your cause or the people suffering any good. Confusion is disempowerment and spreading falsehood undercuts the truth. You can't have it both ways. |
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Just to Note for the Record |
by ML
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31 Mar 2002
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The exact same comment posted by "sound famialar" here was posted by someone calling themselves "the final solution" immeidately after the original bogus story above was reposted again on global IMC:
http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=161079&group=webcast
I would suspect that this person is the same as the original poster of the fictional article above. Don't count on a repost of this lame shit happening here. |
