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You've been living in a dream world Neo |
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by see material
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27 Dec 2001
Modified: 09:37:27 AM |
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For those of you familiar with the Matrix, the title is taken from Neo's first meeting with Morpheous... Well to all of us taking the red pill read all of this one... |
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Same Spammer-Different Day |
by ML
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Current rating: 0
27 Dec 2001
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Here's some news. Life isn't a sci-fi movie nor does it conform to being plugged into someone's conspiracy theory.
Looks like this low-life has been reading the feedback on their activities. IMCs directly above and below U-C IMC on the list were skipped, but the spam nonetheless pretty much continues as usual from this party.
http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=111070&group=webcast
http://arizona.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=2359&group=webcast
etc, etc
http://madison.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=2434&group=webcast
etc, etc
http://seattle.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=10253&group=webcast
http://dc.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=16415&group=webcast
Here's some news for you, spam brain, although you've probably already seen it:
From:
http://process.indymedia.org/letter_to_spammers.php3
Form Letter to People who cross post on indymedia sites:
It seems to be an increasing problem that people are cross posting articles on numerous indymedia sites. I've found that if we write them a letter explaining the issues that most people will stop and become more responsible. This is not the only solution to the indymedia open publishing system being abused but it is a start. As exciting as having a medium of free speech, we need to look at how past mediums on the internet have been destroyed by spam. The whole reason we have closed mailinglists and not the totally open usenet system is because that system was setup in such a way so that it could easily be abused. We need to think about how we can improve indymedia's publishing system so it stays open and democratic, but also can stand up to either benign or malevolent attack.
For now I think we should send this letter to people who cross post to many sites. It won't reach people like the 'genocide' guy who are just wing-nuts, but it will reach people who are well meaning but simply don't understand the medium.
First I want to thank you for contributing to indymedia. It's a great resource that we are trying to build that will allow us to further the self-determination of people under-represented in media production and content, and to illuminate and analyse local and global issues that impact ecosystems, communities and individuals. We seek to generate alternatives to the biases inherent in the corporate media controlled by profit, and to identify and create positive models for a sustainable and equitable society.
Your posts to more than one indymedia sites are acting against the organizational model of indymedia. Central to indymedia is the idea of a local community based media center. By posting across many sites, I'm sure you hope to reach more people. The problem is that by cross-posting to multiple indymedia sites you reduce the value of the whole network. When somebody looks to see the news from italia.indymedia.org they aren't looking to see something from __place__ about __topic__ which doesn't related to what is going on in Italia. What you should do in this case is look for the best place to post the article. If there is an IMC in your town, then post it there. If you're writing about events in another city, such as a commentary on the IMF/World Bank protests in Prague, then post in on the prague.indymedia.org site. Otherwise just post in to the main www.indymedia.org website. Currently we have people looking over all the sites and featuring and linking to the articles on the other indymedia sites. This is not ideal, it means the editorial process is limited to a few people so we are working on developing new software which will make this process open, participatory, and democratic.
Posting messages to multiple IMC mailing lists doesn't get your message out properly because it just clogs up working group's lists and discourages people from reading them. The imc-tech list is for discussion of tech issues, resolving problems and planning tech related things. It is not the place for an announcement of a protest, coverage, an action, or anything other than tech-related problems or discussion. If we do not inforce this, we will become deluged with cross-posts and we loose volunteers as the noise on the list becomes unbearable. Please choose the list that is appropriate for the topic and post it to there only. If you need help finding a list, please see http://lists.indymedia.org.
For now, please continue to contribute to indymedia, just limit your posts to the one most relevant site. I know what you're posting has more relevance to the global community, but we need exert some restraint. In the long run, a lot more people will see your work if indymedia grows to be a powerful competitor to the corporate media giants. We are just at the beginning of the media revolution.
Modified by micah (at) riseup.net on September 5 2000 - softened language and added info about lists Written by rabble (at) protest.net on September 3rd 2000.
And this from the IMC Faq:
http://process.indymedia.org/FAQ.php3#all-wires
Question: Can I post to all the IMC newswires or e-mail lists with the touch of one button?
Answer: No. The site is set up to encourage you to post or e-mail your information to the specific newswire/e-mail list that it concerns.
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