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Food Not Bombs vs. Pizza Hut: a Win-Win Situation Current rating: 0
07 May 2004
This afternoon, at the corner of 5th and Green, the new local chapter of Food Not Bombs (see http://www.foodnotbombs.net) had its debut on the sidewalk in front of Pizza Hut. Passers-by stopped to have a free and healthy vegan lunch of soup, garlic bread, banana bread and Kool-aid.

This project was part of "The Public Square", a three-week long project dedicated to reclaiming public spaces while bringing issues that are under-discussed or confined to private sectors (such as teen sexuality, radical christianity and public school budget planning) into the public sphere.

Today's Food Not Bombs event was planned and orchestrated by members of the Comm 490 Political Performance class, as well as members of the IMC. Food was gathered both from surplus supermarket stock and local donations.
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Zoe Swords, Food Not Bombs organizer, IMC member and participant in the Comm 490 class says, "What was excellent about this action was that we educated twice as many people as we fed and were able to do a lot of outreach among both the student- and non-student communities. This was a great opportunity to let everyone who has been interested in starting Food Not Bombs in Urbana for a long time learn both how much work it was and how much fun it was. Food Not Bombs is really effective because it recognizes that hungry people are still people and does more than just 'feed' -- it creates a happy public party space for everyone involved. I think that the energy after today is really high, and that's a really good thing."

After cooking for 4 hours, Food Not Bombs set up a table at noon on the sidewalk outside Pizza Hut, located at 5th and Green, in an attempt to provide a healthy alternative to corporate fast food. As organizers passed out flyers and drew designs in sidewalk chalk, many passers-by stopped to find out what was going on, and many of them joined in serving others. In the hour that FNB was serving, somewhere between 50 and 150 people came by, some to eat, some just to talk about what FNB is and why they chose this particular location. The choice to serve at Pizza Hut today was in response to the corporation's refusal to honor a boycott of Sweet Mushrooms instituted by the United Farm Workers for unfair labor practices, as well as construction of new buildings by non-union companies, which led to another boycott by the Carpenters Association of America. Pizza Hut is a division of Pepsi-Co, which has a subsidy called Yum Foods that controls KFC and Taco Bell, both of which are also boycotted by the UFW and CAA.

Elizabeth Forcier, Food Not Bombs organizer, says, "I was very excited by the positive reaction and fairly large turnout for the event. We've been talking about starting one up for a while and it was nice to see that it was so well-received by the community. Even the Pizza Hut employees helped out! When we ran out of drinks to serve, they supplied us with free ice water in order to continue the feeding. It gives me a lot of optimism for long-term Food Not Bombs organization in C-U."

If you would like to get involved, or would like more information about future FNB events, send an email to foodnotbombs (at) chambana.net.
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Re: Food Not Bombs vs. Pizza Hut: a Win-Win Situation
Current rating: 0
07 May 2004
Good news! We've needed a FnB chapter for a long time!

I hope you were able to feed some folks who are truly hungry and need the food.
Re: Food Not Bombs vs. Pizza Hut: a Win-Win Situation
Current rating: 0
07 May 2004
Hey Chuck,

Now you're talking brother. I enjoy sitting in an airconditioned restaurant, learning about Cuba and having some food. Meat Lovers is a mighty savory meal.

Jack
Re: Food Not Bombs vs. Pizza Hut: a Win-Win Situation
Current rating: 0
07 May 2004
Hey Paul,

Yes, we were about to offer food to people who needed it--those who were hungry with money, those who are hungry without. The Catholic Worker House is very supportive of the idea and want to collaborate, and they have helped us distribute flyers.

What I like about FNB is that in not discriminating between those who need the 'free' part in the 'free food' and those who don't, it helps the org. from becoming a stigmatizing charity act. Today's event felt more like service to the social than social service.
Re: Food Not Bombs vs. Pizza Hut: a Win-Win Situation
Current rating: 0
08 May 2004
Sarah --

I'm glad to hear there's support for FnB and there wasn't any substantial harrassment.

I agree that the food should be for everyone -- no qualifications. All of us get hungry, all of us need to eat.

Indeed, that's the best way to keep it from being a stigmatizing experience for those who take advantage of it.
Re: Food Not Bombs vs. Pizza Hut: a Win-Win Situation
Current rating: 0
09 May 2004
If you are going to use food as a "draw" to bring people to you so that you can tell them what you believe, then the food must be available to all. What are you going to do, only tell the homeless and the truly hungry that you oppose the war in Iraq, the hunt for Bin Laden, and Israel? And, could you please explain exactly how you believe that your goals will be accomplished by doing what you are doing? I just don't get it.
Re: Food Not Bombs vs. Pizza Hut: a Win-Win Situation
Current rating: 0
09 May 2004
Which was it, 50 or 150 people? Did you count the people that were just trying to pick up their pizza? I like the breadsticks too.
Re: Food Not Bombs vs. Pizza Hut: a Win-Win Situation
Current rating: 0
09 May 2004

I think the idea of offering a service to all, and then (in the case where the running of it is not free) collecting money from those who can pay, elsewhere, on the back end, is a good one for public services. Free schooling/health care/etc for all, but some people pay higher taxes (incidentally, how it works in much of the rest of the world!). Main point is, no one needs to know, up front, who is paying and who isn't. School lunch tokens work similarly - some people buy them, some get them free, but they all look the same when you're standing in the line.

As Sarah mentions, it gets rid of the stigma attached to the service, and it tends to higher quality when people are not constantly saying "what? A service for Those People? It can be crummy, because I will never use it."

Re: Food Not Bombs vs. Pizza Hut: a Win-Win Situation
Current rating: 0
09 May 2004
You say "Radical Christianity". What is that exactly? Do you mean for example, the Pro Life movement, the one man-one women marriage thing? What? I would be really interested to know.

As a Catholic, I am very dissapointed to see the Catholic Worker house support such a thing. I will be sure and make changes to my donations.

Jack
Re: Food Not Bombs vs. Pizza Hut: a Win-Win Situation
Current rating: 0
12 May 2004
How are these things mutually exclusive? Can't one have both food AND bombs? Quite obviously, yes.

More to the point, I don't have a problem with you going out and giving your awful, vegan-death-fart-inducing food for free. You know, fine. But it's like you can't help yourselves to not be jerks; you have to set up shop right in front of the Pizza Hut . All of which is stupid and futile, though not necessarily outrageous. What galls the shit out of me,however, is that my tax dollars are funding " Political Performance" classes at a public university. If you're so concerned about feeding the poor, why not advocate for the firing of the faculty member "teaching" this no-brainer GPA booster, use their salary to feed the poor, and eliminate the middleman?
You're Offended? What About Those Who Believe in Peace?
Current rating: 0
12 May 2004
Considering that the University of Illinois makes vast resources available to ROTC and various military-related research projects, a tiny amount of resources going toward alternatives to war should not be a problem for anyone...unless the only way you can think of to solve a problem is to kill someone.

Whether you like it or wish to acknowledge it, the University's lopsided emphasis on war, like yours, as a solution to public problems disproportionately dismisses the wishes of a significant part of the population who would prefer to see other, more positive and creative ways of resolving conflict and achieving social justice. Your whining is that of a bully, still unsatisfied that you don't own 100% of the world yet.
Re: Food Not Bombs vs. Pizza Hut: a Win-Win Situation
Current rating: 0
12 May 2004
Dose,

Learn from History man, the sad fact is that mankind will never be able to "settle" anything without war. If you are not willing to fight for your freedom, then you WILL be someone elses slave, it's as simple as that. Do you think you and your generation are the first ones to be "anti war"??? Get real. People have been trying to find "alternatives" for centuries, and wars have always happened, and always will.

But hey, I'd love to hear your suggestion for "alternatives to war". Take the current Iraq situation for instance...what would YOU have done? Or how about WWII...what would YOU have done differently than the U.S. did then?
Arguments as false as slogans like "Food Not Bombs"
Current rating: 0
13 May 2004
- The projects you describe bring in resources to the University, rather than deplete them. I concede that the financial impact of your political performance class/makework project is minimal, but that doesn't excuse it. More on that in a minute.

- When did I ever say "the only way (I) can think of to solve a problem is to kill someone"? It's the last way to solve a problem. It's also one that, unfortunately, must be resorted to from time to time (see: human history, 6000 bc to present).

- Here's why I resent that even a penny of my hard-earned tax funds are contributed to this -it will never, ever, ever, make a difference in changing anything, except to inflate your own ego. The bombing of Dresden didn't happen because there just weren't enough people out giving away tofu chili in front of pizza parlors. The thing you call "positive and creative ways of resolving conflict" are really just things that you find to be an enjoyable way to spend an afternoon, to lighten your course work, and to pad your resume. They will have zero effect on changing the policy of our or any other government. They never have, and they never will. I promise you this. So, I'll be damned if I'm going to be expected to pony up for it.

- And finally - you're right; I don't "believe in" peace, any more than I "believe in" war, or for that matter, gravity. They exist, regardless of what beliefs I hold, and always will. That you don't get that, and think that somehow free vegetarian food will somehow change that, is what pisses off people like me about people like you.
Re: Food Not Bombs vs. Pizza Hut: a Win-Win Situation
Current rating: 0
15 May 2004
There is nothing bad in organizing half-charity half fundraising even through giving people good meal. The reasons of wars in the society can be analized, and discussed. Unfortunately, consequences of permitted and inspered by patriotic slogans kilings and other autrocities are always the same: the great increase of violence and destructive instincts and serious new failures of chriatian and other civilized religions' moral values. The reasons of this particular war with Iraq were obvious-oil ! The shortage of own oil in USA is much better to overcome by implementation (wide implementation and devellopment of proper oil substitution(s)). unfortunately, oil moguls at power and military manufacturers also at power and at money prefer to fight for foreign oil, no matter how much blood and money it costs, because such way their place on the very top of society doesn't get ANY competition. The fact that the overwhelming majority of Americans prefer the energy (expecially oil) crisis to be resolved through proper oil substitution and the development of other energy's sources doesn't influence sufficiently the decisions of the top of our government. They chose war, and, as we all can see, failed it. That are two things why Bush administration is so bad:
1. They choose war, though it was much better for the overwhelming majority of Americans to resolve energy crisis through proper financing of corresponding research and development;
2. They were completely incompetent in diplomatic, psychological, and military ways to conduct this war, and THEY FAILED IT!!
Re: Food Not Bombs vs. Pizza Hut: a Win-Win Situation
Current rating: 0
15 May 2004
>"The reasons of this particular war with Iraq were obvious-oil"

That's just plain crazy talk.
Re: Food Not Bombs vs. Pizza Hut: a Win-Win Situation
Current rating: 0
15 May 2004

Okay, "oil" might be a bit simplistic - perhaps "ensuring a lasting military presence in the oil producing region in order to (1) control the money emanating from the flow, and (2) be in a position to cut others off from the flow, thereby controlling the spigot to their economies, even if we don't need the oil ourselves" is closer to the mark.

Now we get to have our bases in the Middle East (those bases, incidentally, are where the majority of the reconstruction efforts are going, which is why the attendant "security concerns" are preventing the contractors from hiring local Iraqi labor) while largely abandoning the ones in Saudi, which helps lessen Bin Laden's pet peeve while not exactly admitting that that's what we're doing. Plus, with the new ones in all the "stans" coming out of the Afghan war, we're all set to encircle China when that becomes the Next Big Concern.

All that, PLUS we got to give a good ol' fashioned demonstration ass kicking, in order to ensure that everyone knows they could be next if they get too uppity. That part didn't quite work out as planned, natch, but hey, at least they tried.

So yeah, we pretty much had our bombs. Someone's gotta use 'em, after all, considering how many of 'em we make to keep the economy humming.

So a little free food outside the Pizza Hut, can't say no to that. Whatever tax dollars it receives are sure to be quite a bit less than a million or so a month. I'm all for a pot of soup, myself. Maybe for a few moments I can enjoy my meal in the company of friends on the sidewalk and forget about the travesties being perpetrated in my name, with my hard earned tax dollars.

Re: Food Not Bombs vs. Pizza Hut: a Win-Win Situation
Current rating: 0
15 May 2004
I think that's crazy talk too, but I have no problem with people giving food away and talking. I think it's a nice idea.
Re: Food Not Bombs vs. Pizza Hut: a Win-Win Situation
Current rating: 0
17 May 2004
I'm pretty sure disagreeing with grad students is verboten around the UCIMC, but I'll do it anyway.

I can't quite make heads or tails of the "Aepelbaum" remarks. I agree when you say that "'oil' is a bit simplistic"; that old dog ain't gonna hunt, especially with gas at over two bucks a gallon. The Bush-Cheney Oil Conspiracy is ringing pretty hollow these days (I never quite got why Texas and Wyoming oilmen would want more competition for their oil from the Arabs, but whatever). However, I'd say that our current security situation has more to do with the blind eye that was turned towards the region for many years - so long as we had a stable supply of oil, we'd let some things slide. Of course, as the "No blood for oil" crowd seems to forget, we were locked in a cold war with an enemy that had designs on the same region and its resources, and had a few thousand nukes pointed at us as well. So now is the time to right wrongs and use our political and economic influence to ensure the growth of democracy. Do I think that the current admin. is the ideal candidate for the job? Not really, but it beats the hell out of braying in the streets that tofu chili will save the world.

The point you make about the 'Stans, however, is nutty. The reason we're in Afghanistan is because 3,000 of our citizens are dead. Step away from the Ted Rall cartoon, sir. If you don't think that the "demonstration ass-kicking"(s) didn't work, I suggest you call Col. Kaddaffi (or for that matter, Mullah Omar or Saddam Hussein). It's sure as hell not winning us any popularity contests -bold measures rarely do- but we're setting the terms of the debate. The terrorists are responding to us, rather than the other way around.

Enjoy your soup. But I, for one, am not touching the stuff.
Re: the link between food and bombs is found to be un-substanciated
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19 May 2004
Re: the link between food and bombs is found to be un-substanciated

in researching the correlation between food supplies and explosive ordinance I have found no evidence that a volume of one excludes the presence of the other
Re: Food Not Bombs vs. Pizza Hut: a Win-Win Situation
Current rating: 0
20 May 2004
NRA/Freedom, to say 'crazy' or 'crazy talk' without any basis is NOTHING but usage of curse words. Iraq has NOTHING to do with 9/11 (seems, however, pretty obvious that Bush's extented famiy does). Natanyachu many times officially claimed that Israel IS NOT INTERESTED in the war with Iraq, and'that is NOT THEIR war, and problem!'.
Bush family has had long lasting vendetta with Saddam, and a lot of long lasting oil (and , maybe, other business) interests in that area. Bush forced USA in this war against UN will, International opinions, and he practically forced the approval of congress for this invasion. This happened very short while ago, and we, all witnessed it.
So, my conclusion IS SOLIDLY BASED on WELL KNOWN FACTS, and you can oppose this conclusion only with word 'crazy'. So, it is pretty obvious for any independent reader of these comments who of us right is and who of us wrong and hides it behind curse words!
Re: Food Not Bombs vs. Pizza Hut: a Win-Win Situation
Current rating: 0
20 May 2004
>"NRA/Freedom, to say 'crazy' or 'crazy talk' without any basis is NOTHING but usage of curse words."

What I hear on TV now a days and in every movie I rent is curse words. "Crazy talk" doesn't strike me as that, but maybe I am not as sensitive as you are.


>"Iraq has NOTHING to do with 9/11..."

The truth concerning that all depends on whose ox is being gored. But regardles of whether the links between Saddam and the factions that carried out the attacks on America, Saddam was a threat to our future, and we took that threat out. You may not like it or agree with it, but he was one of the worlds "boiling points", and he had serious money to pass along to those who would murder Americans.


>"... (seems, however, pretty obvious that Bush's extented famiy does). Natanyachu many times officially claimed that Israel IS NOT INTERESTED in the war with Iraq, and'that is NOT THEIR war, and problem!'."

Maybe Israel already had a nice fat nuke with Saddam's name on it ready and waiting for when it was needed. But regardless of that, we elect our government officials to study the information supplied to them, assess the threat levels, and act accordingly. You have no real idea about the information these decisions are being based upon. You THINK you know a lot about it, but all you really know is what you hear on TV and in the news. The United States Government knows far more than anything close to what gets filtered out into the news media, so what you actually know compared to what you think you know is probably not much. Here is a good question for you though...say that AL Gore was out President, and say that he was currently at war with terrorists in Iraq just like we are now due to intelligence information that you have no access to. Would you be bad mouthing him like you are Bush right now? No? Why not?


>"Bush family has had long lasting vendetta with Saddam..."

Whatever. So you are saying that you believed in Saddam, thought he was a pretty good leader of his people, and are not bothered at all that he was funding terrorism all around the world who would love nothing more than to blow you to kindom come? You want to be a charactor witness at his trial maybe?


>"...and a lot of long lasting oil (and , maybe, other business) interests in that area."

Yea, that's it, oil and business...not that he was pumping money to people who want to destroy America and murder you and your family...


>"Bush forced USA in this war against UN will..."

The United States is a sovereign Country. We don't NEED the United Nations to bless ANYTHING we do. In fact, the United Nations has time and time again proven itself to NOT work in the best interests of the United States, and to also be virtually impotent in every endeaver that they are involved in. Someone in the U.N. was probably getting wealthy in the oil for food program though. So, considering the track record of the U.N., we probably are better off going it alone.


>"...International opinions,"

Ditto. We all know that the entire rest of the world give a rats ass whether thousands of Americans get murdered by terrorists. Fact is that the rest of the world both envies the United States, and reviles it. To be honest, perhaps whatever the rest of the world says, we should probably do exactly the opposite...


>"...and he practically forced the approval of congress for this invasion."

You call it "invasion", people in bondage to evil call it liberation. Time will tell and history will judge. Maybe you are merely looking at it through your hatred of Bush, and seeing what you want to see due to that?


>"This happened very short while ago, and we, all witnessed it."

All I "witnessed" is an attempt by a duly elected official of the United States Government to assure the continued safety of America from the various real worldwide threats that exist and that would destroy her if any chance existed for them to accomplish that. You may not appreciate it, or even really understand it at this point in time, but if that's what the elected people with the knowledge that we don't have access to happen think is the correct and necessary move, then that's what we should do.


>"So, my conclusion IS SOLIDLY BASED on WELL KNOWN FACTS...."

Your conclusion is based on nothing more than what you want to believe, and the tiny specks of information that trickle out into the news media. Nothing more or less.


>"... and you can oppose this conclusion only with word 'crazy'. So, it is pretty obvious for any independent reader of these comments who of us right is and who of us wrong and hides it behind curse words!"

If you say so.
Re: Food Not Bombs vs. Pizza Hut: a Win-Win Situation
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23 May 2004
I seriously doubt anyone got sick and I don't know how donations can be considered charging for food. And they already stated the nature of the activity, it was to make people aware that they are against the war in Iraq. I don't have a problem with people who are against the war, as long as they don't become traitors to their Country in the process.
Re: Food Not Bombs vs. Pizza Hut: a Win-Win Situation
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07 Jun 2004
i can see that with all the misinfo gathered by folks at this event that we did a poor job raising awareness as to what we were about exactly.