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Update on Recent Federal Guidelines and Charity Care Programs of Local Hospitals Current rating: 0
04 Mar 2004
A press conference was held by Champaign County Health Care Consumers (CCHCC) on March 3rd 2004 regarding recently released Federal guidelines and their implications for the charity care programs of hospitals. Recent changes in the charity care programs of two local hospitals, Provena Covenant Medical Center and Carle Foundation Hospital, both of Urbana, Illinois, were described. The speakers at this event were Claudia Lennhoff, Janna McGregor, and Mary Jane Gillespie, who are staff members or affiliated with CCHCC.

A press conference was held by Champaign County Health Care Consumers (CCHCC) on March 3rd 2004 regarding recently released Federal guidelines and their implications for the charity care programs of hospitals. Recent changes in the charity care programs of two local hospitals, Provena Covenant Medical Center and Carle Foundation Hospital, both of Urbana, Illinois, were described. The speakers at this event were Claudia Lennhoff, Janna McGregor, and Mary Jane Gillespie, who are staff members or affiliated with CCHCC. Portions of this press conference and its materials are highlighted below.

In a letter to Richard Davidson, President of the American Hospital Association (AHA), which was released to the public, Secretary Tommy Thompson of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) addressed whether Federal regulations barred hospitals from providing discounts to uninsured or underinsured patients with limited financial means. In this letter to Mr. Davidson, which was dated February 19th 2004, Secretary Thompson stated the following:

"Your letter suggests that HHS regulations require hospitals to bill all patients using the same schedule of charges and suggests that as a result, the uninsured are forced to pay 'full price' for their care. That suggestion is not correct and certainly does not accurately reflect my policy. The advice you have been given regarding this issue is not consistent with my understanding of Medicare's billing rules."

As a result of this exchange of letters with Mr. Davidson of AHA, Secretary Thompson has directed the Centers of Medicare and Medicaid Services and the Office of Inspector General to prepare summaries of Federal policy regarding these issues. Copies of these policy summaries are available through the office of CCHCC or the websites of these organizations. There is also a "Questions and Answers" document (Uninsured.pdf) that is available through CCHCC, or it can be downloaded from the following website:

http://www.cms.hhs.gov/FAQ

In the same letter, Secretary Thompson of HHS also stated:

". . . that hospitals can provide discounts to uninsured and underinsured patients who cannot afford their hospital bills and to Medicare beneficiaries who cannot afford their Medicare cost-sharing obligations. Nothing in the Medicare program rules or regulations prohibit such discounts. In addition, the Office of Inspector General informs me that hospitals have the ability to offer discounts to uninsured and underinsured individuals and cost-sharing waivers to financially needy Medicare beneficiaries."

In the past, hospital officials have often attempted to excuse themselves from providing charity care or discounts to financially needy hospital patients because of HHS rules and regulations, but Secretary Thompson has clearly indicated that such interpretations are without substantive justification and do not reflect his policies.

It will be recalled that the Medicare 100/100+ programs of CCHCC were terminated in 1998 by Diane Friedman, CEO of Provena Covenant Medical Center, because they supposedly violated Federal regulations about providing waivers of Medicare co-payments. This resulted in a lawsuit between Provena Covenant Medical Center and CCHCC that remains to be settled. And yet, Secretary Thompson has recently issued a statement that hospitals can provide discounts or waivers on their bills to financially needy patients, including Medicare beneficiaries. Claudia Lennhoff announced at the press conference that Provena Covenant Medical Center has agreed to meet with CCHCC in the near future to discuss the fate of the Medicare 100/100+ programs, and she is optimistic that an agreement can be reached.

The guidelines that have been established under Secretary Thompson have important implications for attempts on the part of consumer advocates and legislators to eliminate discriminatory billing practices on the part of the hospital industry and many physician clinics. As the letter from Mr. Davidson of AHA to Secretary Thompson made clear, patients who are uninsured or underinsured often pay the highest price for hospital services, while patients who receive coverage under Medicare, Medicaid, or a Health Maintenance Organization (HMO), often receive sizable discounts for such services. As a result, it is the working poor without health insurance who often receive the largest bills for hospital services.

As recently as last month (on Feb. 19th), State Senator Dale Righter, a Republican from Mattoon, Illinois, questioned the legality of a Senate bill that would require hospitals to provide a discount to needy uninsured patients, implying that this would violate Medicare or Medicaid regulations of the Department of Health and Human Services. This occurred during a session of the Senate Health and Human Services Committee when Senate Bill 552 (the Discriminatory Pricing Reform Act) was on the agenda under the chairmanship of State Senator Barack Obama, a Democrat from southside Chicago, who is one of the sponsors of the bill. The new guidelines that have been issued under Secretary Thompson attempt to lay such objections to rest.

It should be noted that Senate Bill 552 passed the senate committee by a 5-4 vote (Democrats voting in favor, Republicans voting against), and has been fowarded to the state legislature for further consideration. If Senate Bill 552 is passed by the legislature and signed into law by Governor Blagojevich, it would:

• Prohibit hospitals from collecting more than the cost of services for hospital care from uninsured patients whose income is below 300% of the Federal Poverty Level or who spend over 20% of their annual income on health care.

• Prohibit hospitals from undertaking debt collection activities until an assessment is done to determine whether the patient meets the Act's eligibility requirements.

Hopefully Senate Bill 552 will be passed into law in the State of Illinois in the near future. Similar laws are under consideration in New York and other states.

At the local level, both Provena Covenant and Carle Foundation Hospital have recently expanded their charity care programs:

• Provena Covenant Medical Center offers a 100% reduction in charges to patients with household incomes at 120% of the Federal Poverty Level (FPL) and below, while patients with household incomes up to 300% of FPL can qualify for a partial reduction of charges on a sliding scale.

• Carle Foundation Hospital offers a 100% reduction in charges to patients with household incomes at 150% of the Federal Poverty Level (FPL) and below, while patients with household incomes up to 250% of FPL can qualify for a partial reduction of charges on a sliding scale.

At the present time, the Federal Poverty Level is $8,980 for a single person, $12,120 for a couple, and $18,400 for a family of four. The charity care program of Provena Covenant Medical Center has been implemented for all hospitals that are managed by Provena Health.

In the past, neither local hospital was very outspoken about their charity care policies. CCHCC has received many complaints in the past from former hospital patients that they were taken into collections without anyone from the hospital informing them of the existence of a charity care program. On those occasions when patients did discover the existence of such a program, they were often told that it was too late to apply, or they did not qualify, even when they were too poor to pay off their hospital bills.

More recently, both hospitals have attempted to make members of the public more aware of the existence of their charity care programs. Both hospitals provide, or are planning to provide, information regarding charity care on brochures and their billing statements, and they have placed ads that describe the availability of charity care. Furthermore, the time limits on applying for charity care have been greatly relaxed. Provena Covenant Medical Center allows patients to apply for charity care at "any time," while Carle Foundation Hospital accepts applications for charity care prior to the instigation of court action. Thus, both hospitals have made considerable progress in making their charity programs more accessible to members of the public.

For those patients who are uninsured or underinsured, and fail to qualify for charity care under current guidelines, it is still possible to be sued by either one of the local hospitals (or their representatives) and taken to court over unpaid hospital bills. In the past, both Provena Covenant Medical Center and Carle Foundation Hospital have had former patients arrested over medical debt by requesting a "body attachment" should they fail to appear in court. There have been cases of former patients being handcuffed and incarcerated at the Champaign County Jail in Urbana, Illinois, even though some of these patients were living near or below the Federal Poverty Level, and were too poor to pay their bills. Fortunately, this is an unusual collection practice among non-profit hospitals, and even many for-profit businesses will not request body attachments in court.

As a result of a recent change in policy under CEO Mark Weiner, Provena Covenant Medical Center has terminated the use of body attachments while attempting to collect medical debts from former patients. However, Carle Foundation Hospital still retains its use for selected cases. The position of CCHCC is that the use of body attachments is not an appropriate collection practice for non-profit hospitals. CCHCC supports the discontinuation of body attachments by Provena Covenant Medical Center, and encourages Carle Foundation Hospital to discontinue this aggressive collection practice as well.


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Re: Update on Recent Federal Guidelines and Charity Care Programs of Local Hospitals
Current rating: 0
08 Mar 2004
I am happy to report that Carle Foundation Hospital has terminated the use of "body attachments," according to an article in the New Gazette last Friday. Apparently, this policy decision was prompted by the negative publicity surrounding the use of this aggressive collection practice.
Re: Update on Recent Federal Guidelines and Charity Care Programs of Local Hospitals
Current rating: 0
08 Mar 2004
Hey,

thanks there Dr. John, and CCHCC crew. Good work and then some.

Might want to update that cms link--it ain't working.

Thanks a mill.

nobodyuneedtoknow
Re: Update on Recent Federal Guidelines and Charity Care Programs of Local Hospitals
Current rating: 0
09 Mar 2004

Here's the updated link:

http://www.cms.hhs.gov/providers/hospital.asp

In the Hospital Highlights Section, click on Secretary's letter if you wish to see Secretary Thompson's letter in its entirety, while the Questions & Answers document can be viewed in Acrobat format by clicking on Questions & Answers on changes to the Uninsured.

Re: Update on Recent Federal Guidelines and Charity Care Programs of Local Hospitals
Current rating: 0
11 Mar 2004
Hi Dr. John

'ppreciated the link correction. So, does the HHS's Secreterary's letter carry enforceable/punishable action on behalf of the Feds? What are the penalties for violators, and who qualifies, among the public, to turn in the violating hospitals?

t-u a milln., again, dr. john.

nobodyuneedtoknow
Re: Update on Recent Federal Guidelines and Charity Care Programs of Local Hospitals
Current rating: 0
12 Mar 2004
nobodyuneedtoknow:

At the present time, there is no Federal law that prohibits hospitals from charging the uninsured the maximum price for their services. Secretary Thompson is merely stating that there is nothing in Federal law that requires hospitals to do this, and he appears to be encouraging hospitals to offer discounts to the uninsured on a voluntary basis.

There is legislation at the state level that is pending in Illinois, Senate Bill 552, that would require hospitals to provide services to the uninsured at the actual cost of those services, rather than the maximum price. The maximum retail price of hospital services usually exceeds the actual costs by a considerable amount. It is also considerably more than what other health insurance carriers pay for such services.

If SB 552 is passed by the state legislature, it is my understanding that hospitals could be fined by the Illinois Department of Health & Human Services if they send bloated bills to people without health insurance. I believe anyone receiving such a bill (including a consumer group or lawyer acting on their behalf) could file a complaint with the Office of the Inspector General in the State of Illinois (this office is a division within the Illinois Department of Health & Human Services). Once a complaint was received, an investigation would be conducted to determine if the complaint was valid. A complaint to the Office of the Inspector General can be accomplished by telephone, written letter, or even the internet, depending on the confidentiality of the information that is involved.

Needless to say, the lobbyist of the American Hospital Association was speaking out against this bill when it was being debated by the State Senate Committee on Health & Human Services. SB 552 passed the committee anyways, which is the first step toward making this bill a state law.

I hope this satisfies some of your curiosity.
Re: Update on Recent Federal Guidelines and Charity Care Programs of Local Hospitals
Current rating: 0
12 Mar 2004
There's another thing I should mention:

If a hospital has non-profit status, it is required to engage in charitable activities under State law to justify this status. This is one of the reasons many non-profit hospitals have charity care programs for the poor. Any non-profit hospital that fails to do this risks losing its tax-exempt status. It is possible to file complaints with the local County Board of Review or the Illinois Department of Revenue if a person or organization has reason to believe that a non-profit hospital (or any other non-profit organization) is not meeting its charitable obligations. How the County Board of Review or the Illinois Department of Revenue will respond to such complaints is difficult to predict, considering the complexity of tax law. Sometimes the enforcement of this aspect of state law is rather lax , particularly towards hospitals, schools, and churches. For exemption from state and local taxes, the Illinois Dept. of Revenue makes the final decision, while the opinion of the County Board of Review is merely advisory.

At the Federal level, the IRS also requires that non-profit organizations engage in an activity that is charitable or serves the public interest in order to receive exemption from Federal taxes. However, the IRS has been exceptionally lax in its requirements toward non-profit hospitals, while the Illinois Department of Revenue is more strict, partly because there is more at stake (exemption of property taxes).
Re: Update on Recent Federal Guidelines and Charity Care Programs of Local Hospitals
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13 Mar 2004
Dr. John:

'ppreciated your response and the description of the mess things are in at the federal and state level. It sad to hear, as you stated, below, that the USDHHS and its Secretary have no enforceable authority to stop hospitals from billing the uninsured and the poor. IT's als sad to hear that though the Illinois statute is a little more strict than the federal statute, it really does not have the necessary teeth to protect our unisured brothers and sisters and their families.

I have, and I mean it in the most sincere way possible, I have no words to thank you enough for your kind responding and and the energy and time you are putting into it. And I should say, I have no enough words to thank enough the Champaign County Health Care Consumers, and its energetic, and tireless executive director, Ms. Claudia Lennhoff, who in a speech she gave last autumn at the IDF dinner she stated that there is hope to hanlde all the injustice ionvolved in health care in the US, if for no other reason, the hope being that there are people like her who are working hard to see to it, that one day we will be free from the fear of not ahving health care when we needed, and by extension of CCHCC's medical debt campaign, fear from being victimized by the hospitals in the name of debt collection etc. As one of the characters of Dickens novel (I believe it was in the Tale of Two Cities, or something) said: "there is worse than death, there is debt and prison."

It takes enormous courage, commitment, dedication, and vision to do the work of justice and peace in this wrold of ours, and I am deeply thankful to Ms. Lennhoff and her staff for doing it for all of us! And again, thanks to you, Dr. John, for your kind responding and information.

nobodyuneedtoknow
Re: Update on Recent Federal Guidelines and Charity Care Programs of Local Hospitals
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16 Mar 2004
Dr. John--

forgot to ask earlier, and please let me know, if you would: who, among the local news media (and national news media) attended the CCHCC press conference ? And in what local and national media was the content of the press conference written up ?

Thanks for your kind response in advance.

Nobodyuneedtoknow
Re: Update on Recent Federal Guidelines and Charity Care Programs of Local Hospitals
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18 Mar 2004
A reporter from the Daily Illini and a cameraman from a local TV station attended the press conference. An article in the Daily Illini appeared the day after the press conference.
Re: Update on Recent Federal Guidelines and Charity Care Programs of Local Hospitals
Current rating: 0
19 Mar 2004
Thankk you, Dr. Hilty for the following information:
"A reporter from the Daily Illini and a cameraman from a local TV station attended the press conference. An article in the Daily Illini appeared the day after the press conference. "

Would you, if you can, sir, would you happen to know which TV station's cameraman was that? Was it WILL TV, WAND TV, WCIA TV, Local Public Access TV? And was there an actual interview of the CCHCC folks (who was interveiwed, and for how long?) about the content of the press conference with footage that aired during the newscast? (and how long of air time was given to the CCHCC press conference on the newscast?)

Thank you Dr. Hilty, sir.

nobodyuneedtoknow
Re: Update on Recent Federal Guidelines and Charity Care Programs of Local Hospitals
Current rating: 0
19 Mar 2004
Dr. Hilty--

thank you, again, for sharing the following information: "A reporter from the Daily Illini and a cameraman from a local TV station attended the press conference. An article in the Daily Illini appeared the day after the press conference. "


I wanted to write this in response to your kind sharing of your responses to my earlier questions, and yet, I cannot help bu to seek your understanding in sharing my frustration and distress at how little attention the local media have given with their feet to CCHCC's press conference. Waht I mean, sir, without wanting to take too much of your time, is that I sense that CCHCC is involved in a project (medicla debt) of very substantial significance to the Urbana-Champaign community and to the nation! And yet, the local press decides to vote with its feet, if you will, and just not give CCHCC the attnetion it should be getting. If this was some-kind of Illini fotball type press conference (of complete nonsense to the health and welfare of the community) the press would have come in like vultures. I guess the local press contnues to deem that issues of justice and equality in health care access are not much news-worthy--a grave illassessment of the scope and significance of CCHCC's work, and the work of its tireless etc. director, Ms. Lennhoff.

Thank you for letting me share, Dr. Hilty, sir.

nobodyuneedtoknow
Re: Update on Recent Federal Guidelines and Charity Care Programs of Local Hospitals
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23 Mar 2004
I guess, you may have gone off the radar, Dr. Hilty, sir. And that is quite understandable sir. So be well and stay well, Dr. Hilty, sir.

nobodyuneedtoknow
Re: Update on Recent Federal Guidelines and Charity Care Programs of Local Hospitals
Current rating: 0
26 Mar 2004
Dear Nobody:

I'm still around and will attempt to address your comments.

First, I don't remember which TV station was represented at the press conference. The cameraman spoke briefly with Ms. Lennhoff, who provided him with some literature about the issues of the press conference. I also don't know if any footage was aired.

In general, CCHCC enjoys a very good relationship with the local press, and occasionally is involved in press-related activities at the national level, which includes articles in the Wall Street Journal and USA Today, as well as a radio program on Democracy Now!

I agree with you, however, that the local and mainstream media don't always have the best set of priorities, and as a result many important social and ecological issues are neglected. This is especially true in regard to portraying the perspectives of the more disenfranchised members of society. Meanwhile, the views of people and organizations in the social mainstream are over-represented in these media outlets. This is one of the reasons for the existence of the Independent Media Center (IMC).

The News-Gazette has presented many health care issues through the years that are in part the result of CCHCC's activities. Sometimes their coverage of the issues is good, and sometimes it is not so good. As an example, they were slow to reveal to members of the public the use of "body attachments" (having people arrested & sent to jail over medical debts) by the local non-profit hospitals. Not until the Wall Street Journal published an article about this on their front page, did the News Gazette display any interest in this issue, even though both local hospitals have resorted to the use of body attachments for several years.

Interestingly, as soon as Carle Foundation Hospital announced their termination of their use of body attachments, the News Gazette published an article about this the very next day. If they had been more prompt in publishing the use of this aggressive collection practice by the local hospitals in the first place, it's possible that the hospitals would have terminated its use several years ago, sparing many people in the community unnecessary hardships.

You are correct in stating that CCHCC is engaged in important work at the present time. CCHCC is attempting to change the way in which our local hospitals are managed so that they are in greater compliance with their ethical and financial obligations toward the community as non-profit organizations. Too often in the past, both hospitals were managed like they were for-profit enterprises that didn't have any special obligations toward members of the community.

One of these obligations, as viewed from the perspective of CCHCC (and perhaps the Illinois Dept. of Revenue), is to offer a sliding scale fee that is based on the ability to pay to inpatients of hospitals. Another obligation is to stop throwing members of the community into jail as the result of medical debts, which is inappropriate for an organization that enjoys non-profit status. Fortunately, as indicated in the article above, considerable progress has been made on both of these issues. Hopefully, these changes will be implemented on a statewide or national level as a result of progessive legislation.
Re: Update on Recent Federal Guidelines and Charity Care Programs of Local Hospitals
Current rating: 0
26 Mar 2004
Dear Dr. Hilty--

thanks so very much for your most kind response and the information on my concerns about the local medias' coverage of CCHCC's work, especially its work on medical debt (and may I say again, that the vision, commitment, and dedication of CCHCC's Exec. Director, Ms Claudia Lennhoff, is what, to a great extent, made this most critical problem of medical debt known to the rest of us--I can never be thankful enough to CCHCC and to Ms. Lennhoff!)

I feel very sad to hear that the TV station did not (or as you said) it is not clear that they aired the scenes from MS. Lennhoff's CCHCC press conference on medical debt. Let's hope that TV stations will do much better in the future, no?

So, thank you so much again, Dr. Hilty, sir, and may I say, I am looking forward to reading the rest of your reposnses to some of my questions.

Thank you again, Dr. Hilty, sir.

Sincerely,

Nobodyuneedtoknow
Re: Update on Recent Federal Guidelines and Charity Care Programs of Local Hospitals
Current rating: 0
27 Mar 2004
Dear Dr. Hilty--

thanks again for your kind repsonses and your hospitality. I very appreciated it, sir. I wanted to reveal this to you because, well, I think it is the right thing to do. Last summer (2003) when the Wall Street Journal published the their piece on medical debt, I became very sad about the depth, and significance of the problem! Yet, I tried to channel my sadness to something I thought might be useful. So I sent a couple of e-mails and a letter to PBS's investigative program called FRONTLINE. I mentioned FRONTLINE all about the great work CCHCC and Ms. Lennhoff has done on this issue of medical debt, and I also wrote at length about how doing an entire documentary piece on CCHCC, Ms. Lennhoff, and medical debt not only is a great human interest story, but it would be something of great service to the rest of the US and the world, for that matter. FRONTLINE told me something that they would forward the idea to their producer, or something. A series of follow-up emails were never returned.

The next thing I did was to send copies of the letter to FRONTLINE to select friends in the community, asking them if they would write to FRONTLINE, and/or let others in the community know that if we all speak with one voice, we can encourage FRONTLINE to produce a piece on Ms. Lennhoff, CCHCC, and medical debt.

I have been a bitter about the whole experience because FRONTLINE has not really taken this seriously--I guess without the pressure of a corporate sponsor, FRONTLINE is not willing to do much. So, perhaps, I should control my anger at FRONTLINE and try to approach Mr. Bill Moyers NOW program--he has done a nice job covering health care issues in the past, and perhaps he might be more sympathetic this time.

What keeps on driving my motivation to do all this Dr. Hilty, sir, is not that I am seeking any rewards, and in fact I have and I stand to gain nothing from the whole thing. But I have been diagnosed with neoplasm and I do not know for how long I will be around (or how long the good lord intends to keep me around).....................

Thanks you for your understanding, Dr. Hilty, sir.

Sincerely,

Nobodyuneedtoknow
Re: Update on Recent Federal Guidelines and Charity Care Programs of Local Hospitals
Current rating: 0
01 Apr 2004
Dear Dr. Hilty--

I understand that you are trying, as you mentioned earlier, to answer my questions, and I appreciate that you are intending to do so, sir. I imagine you are also busy with more important things and priorities as well, and I respct that sir.

I was just wondering though whether Ms Lennohoff would be kind enough to answer some of the questions I have asked you. I understand that Ms. Lennohoff is , or must be a very busy and incredibly important person, given her position as the Executive Director of CCHCC, and I also understand that she may not have , or deem necessary, to make time, to answer my questions or even partake a little in the dialogue (you so nicely permitted me to carry on with you, sir) . After all, she is much much more important than I am ( and with a name like "nobodyuknow" I am not only someone extremely unimportant, but also, someone, who perhaps maybe a bit too curious or a bit too confused, and everything in between those two extremes). And so, I do not expect, or even hope that Ms. Lennohoff will answer my questions or partake in our dialogue, but I thought it may be appropriate to ask, sir.

Thank you for your kindness and hospitality, Dr. Hilty, sir.

Sincerely,

nobodyuneedtoknow
Re: Update on Recent Federal Guidelines and Charity Care Programs of Local Hospitals
Current rating: 0
04 Apr 2004
Dear Nobody:

It's very difficult to get on national television and always a long shot. But thank-you for trying. You can always call up CCHCC and ask to speak to Ms. Lennhoff about this, but I doubt that she would be any more successful at this than you have been. Generally, an important media event occurs as the result of an influential third party who is familiar with the work of CCHCC and Ms. Lenhoff, and who also knows an important media person who is interested and willing to do a show or write an article. When these things happen is not easy to predict.

I'm sorry to here about your recent health problem. Please take care of yourself.
Re: Update on Recent Federal Guidelines and Charity Care Programs of Local Hospitals
Current rating: 0
04 Apr 2004
Dear Dr. Hilty--

thank you for your kind response, sir--I appreciated that you did respond, and thank you for your kind wishes and thoughts regarding my illness. You are a kind person, Dr. Hilty, sir, and there not very may kind people in this world left, so I appreciate that, if nothing else, you do exist and you are willing to share your valuable time and energy to respond.

Regaring my frustration with the local media and the lack of attention they have extended to Ms. Lennhoff's medical debt press conference, I can say I am still angry, I am very angry, and I am very frustrated and more.... One would believe that after all this hard work that Ms. Lennhoff and her staff have done for years to cultivate some level of attention by the local media that the local media would honor the necessity and urgency of CCHCC's and Ms. Lennhoff's work, and show respect towards fullifilling their obligations to the social cotract as it pertains to the Urbana-Champaign community. And so, my frustration and anger go deep, and for reasons that you understand.

Ms. Lennhoff does not need to hear from me; it seems, Dr. Hilty, sir, that she does have a very nice and very supportive and closely personal netowrk of friends (it seems she has lots of friends!) locally and nationally to be able to take care of the lack of media attention to her work--and I wish her and extend my most sincere and deepest and warmest wishes of good luck on this and all other CCHCC projects!

My frustrations and anger at the local media, and their demonstrated lack of respect towards the obligations they have to the social contract, are genuine and sincere.

Sincerely,

Nobodyuneedtoknow
Re: Update on Recent Federal Guidelines and Charity Care Programs of Local Hospitals
Current rating: 0
29 Apr 2004
Dear Dr. Hilty--

this is to thank you, sir, for all your kind support, and your willingness to answer my questions is heartwarming and much appreciated.

And so this is also to say good bye to you as I understand there will be no further communication with you.

Dear Dr. Hilty, sir, it is not my nature to be reamianing anonymous like this; not at all. But for reasons beyond my control and for reasons that have amounted to sheer threats and blackmailing by a person you and I know so very well I am ending my communnications with you on this subject (so that cause of the struggle against medical debt can be sustained, rather than pleasing tthe personality of this someone we both know so very well)

Thank you Dr, Hilty, sir!

Nobodyuneedtoknow