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expensivespeech.com Current rating: 0
19 Feb 2006
will newspapers publish these cartoons done by a university of illinois student, too?

he says:
I originally drew these for my local university paper, the Daily Illini in Champaign Illinois, after they reprinted the cartoons of the prophet Mohammed. After thinking a lot about it I have decided to send it to other publications that have reprinted the cartoons in hopes of enlarging the debate. Just as importantly I wanted to see if publishers, especially in the US and Europe who defended their publishing under the ideal of free speech, would publish cartoons that might make their speech expensive by offending their main audience and advertisers.

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www.expensivespeech.com
will newspapers publish these cartoons done by a university of illinois student, too?

he says:
I originally drew these for my local university paper, the Daily Illini in Champaign Illinois, after they reprinted the cartoons of the prophet Mohammed. After thinking a lot about it I have decided to send it to other publications that have reprinted the cartoons in hopes of enlarging the debate. Just as importantly I wanted to see if publishers, especially in the US and Europe who defended their publishing under the ideal of free speech, would publish cartoons that might make their speech expensive by offending their main audience and advertisers.

view cartoons and full statement at:
www.expensivespeech.com
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Re: expensivespeech.com
Current rating: 0
20 Feb 2006
I don't find these two cartoons offensive or provocative, but I do find them immature. They seem like self-serving attempts to garner attention and publicity, not unlike the original DI cartoons. I'd hope you'd have a little more class than that. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Re: expensivespeech.com
Current rating: 0
20 Feb 2006
One of the most obnoxious hypocrisies is that it is currently ILLEGAL in many European countries to publicly deny the Holocaust. While your second cartoon does not do this, it (or anything like it) would almost certainly never be published in Europe.

Mocking Muslisms is okay, mocking Jews is not.

As for Christians: mocking them is so common that it hardly gets any attention.

Given the violent reaction to the original cartoons (people have been killed), it is most certainly an issue of free speech. It is one thing to refrain from publishing something because you recognize that it is tasteless. It is quite another to refrain because you might be prosecuted or killed.

Yes, the cartoons were tasteless. Yes, Holocaust denial is reprehensible. But when laws and threats of violence are used to keep things like that out of the public eye, there is a serious free speech issue. It is an embarrassing failure of the Left to see the real issue here.
Re: expensivespeech.com
Current rating: 0
20 Feb 2006
Holocaust denial is illegal in only ten countries in the world. Eight of those ten were occupied by the Reich. _Any_ kind of pro-Nazi statement is banned there, not just Holocaust denial, although you'd never know it from the people who try to draw analogies between the Mohammed cartoons and Holocaust denial and therefore treat the latter as if it's some special exemption for the Jews.

And it is also simply wrong to say that the hate speech codes of these nations precludes mocking Muslims, but again, that's part of the rhetorical baggage that this particular meme carries with it.

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Kevin's Political Position
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20 Feb 2006
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Re: expensivespeech.com
Current rating: 0
21 Feb 2006
Who said that it was illegal to mock Muslims?

It's the fear of violence that is shutting people up. And they've good reason to be afraid. Remember Theo van Gogh? Salman Rushdie?

The Left won't stand up to radical Muslims the way it stands up to radical Christians, and it won't really stand up for freedom of speech. This is not rhetoric, it's just the truth.

This is depressing and disappointing. By the way, it is also how neocons are born (I'm not quite there yet, but that's my trajectory). If you think the Left can keep up this foolishness and still be taken seriously, you're in for a lot of disappointment.