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Announcement :: Israel / Palestine
Norman Finkelstein to speak at Law School Tuesday evening Current rating: 0
07 Mar 2005
Professor Norman Finkelstein, author of The Holocaust Industry and the forthcoming Beyond Chutzpah, will speak at the UIUC School of Law Tuesday, March 8th, at 6 p.m.
Fact and Fraud in the Israel-Palestine Conflict

A lecture by Professor Norman Finkelstein, DePaul University

Who is Norman Finkelstein?

1. The son of two Jewish concentration camp survivors.
2. The most astute critic of Zionist historical mythology in “Image and Reality in the Israel-Palestine Conflict.”
3. The first to expose in detail how the Nazi holocaust has been used to rationalize Israel’s criminality and U.S. support for it, in “The Holocaust Industry.”
4. The most cogent critic of the cynical uses of the “new anti-Semitism” to defame critics of Israel and to suppress intellectual freedom, especially on college campuses (including our own, I might add).
5. Alan Dershowitz’s worst nightmare: Professor Finkelstein’s forthcoming book, “Beyond Chutzpah,” plays off the title of an earlier Dershowitz tract, and minutely dissects his recent “The Case for Israel.” Finkelstein argues that if one looks at the facts instead of engaging in fraud, one ends up easily making “the case for Palestine.”

In the tradition of Professor Finkelstein’s mentor Noam Chomsky, don’t believe me, come judge for yourself:

When: Tuesday, March 8th, 6-8 p.m.

Where: University of Illinois College of Law at Champaign - Urbana College of Law Auditorium

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Re: Norman Finkelstein to speak at Law School Tuesday evening
Current rating: 0
08 Mar 2005
I can't attend due to a previous commitment, but I was wondering: Will anyone from the IMC tape this (video or audio)?

Thanks!

:-{)]
-MM
Relevance of Finklestein's Parents
Current rating: 0
08 Mar 2005
It seems like the idea in mentioning Finklestein's parents in his bio is to increase Finklestein's "rhetorical unassailability."

The argument runs something like this:

"You can't possibly accuse somebody both of whose parents are Jewish Holocaust survivors of 'Anti-Semitism'!...Or, you could, but most people wouldn't buy it. So, when such a person argues against the current state of affairs in Israel/Palestine, the fact of their parentage makes it harder to just blow off what they say."

Does such an argument make logical sense? Maybe it does and maybe it doesn't. But I personally would think that an academic with two Jewish Holocaust survivors for parents would tend to care genuinely, and care A LOT, about what it means to be Jewish in the aftermath of World War II.
Re: Norman Finkelstein to speak at Law School Tuesday evening
Current rating: 0
08 Mar 2005
I take your point, but disagree. It shouldn't matter. What he seems to be doing -- and I'll note here that Mr. Finkelstein's personal website makes a great deal of this personal connection -- is establishing his own credibility.

I find that intellectually dishonest and emotionally manipulative. His stance on Israel is predicated on the idea that Zionists exploit their relationship to the holocaust for their own ends. And so does Mr. Finkelstein.

In truth, he has no more right to "ownership" of this than do the Zionists. Both approaches are dishonest and manipulative, and I would be a whole lot more open to Finkelstein's perspective if he wasn't blatantly exploiting his own parents' experience.
Re: Norman Finkelstein to speak at Law School Tuesday evening
Current rating: 0
09 Mar 2005
Dear "Another...":

I like how you've deconstructed this and I agree with what you've said...except that you haven't taken it all the way to its logical conclusion: if it doesn't matter, then his hypocrisy shouldn't affect your opinion of his arguments one way or the other.

My opinion is that his arguments are fact-based and accurate. I especially like his analysis of Christopher Hitchens' apostasy and subsequent ascent (descent?) into mainstream pundithood...

But that's as may be-- I guess no tape was made, hunh? Too bad.

:-{)]
-MM
Re: Norman Finkelstein to speak at Law School Tuesday evening
Current rating: 0
09 Mar 2005
There doesn't seem to be anything about it in the student paper either. On the other hand, I did hear WILL-AM covering the Richard Clarke talk last night, which apparently overflowed 141 Loomis and another room as well. So the timing was unfortunate. (I was at still another event, a discussion of Kafka at the local library, although I probably wouldn't have gone to see Finkelstein anyway, having heard him on the radio a few months ago.)

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Re: Norman Finkelstein to speak at Law School Tuesday evening
Current rating: 0
09 Mar 2005
I am really curious what can be said about Jewish question and Israeli-Palestinian or the entire Middle East conflict what has not been said at least about thousand times before. What actually can be done ? And why do these almost sixty years old accusations of Zionists, Holocaust survivals, etc.. are still chewed when their juice is sucked out, digested, analyzed and scrutinized so many times before.
I think that it would be no Palestinian State ever because Arab countries around want Israel and USA through it there like they want to be crucified. USA wants Israel there because this disposition assures USA world’s priority, and Israel, itself, needs to maintain at least its current size to assure its statehood’s survival under the permanent pressure from all Arab countries around. So, this story would continue indefinitely, unless USA gives up its world priority and stops to support Israel at all, and Jewish state would be created somewhere else in the world (I think it would never happen, at least in couple next life times), or USA stops to pressure Arab countries, so, they decide to have Israel there and would evacuate and accommodate properly all current Palestinian refugees in the region. I don’t think that there is ANY solution in the middle.