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A quick note on SF-IMC |
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by gehrig
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02 Feb 2004
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Just a quick hint of how things are going at SF-IMC after the split. One of their leading "anti-Zionists," Wendy Campbell, has posted a note claiming that the kosher food certification process is really just a big Jewish scam to defraud non-Jews. This is a favorite theme of neo-Nazis and white power types; it's also bullshit; given five minutes I could pull up ten goosestepper sites making the same claim. The SF-IMC editor, Nessie, knows the post is there and, rather than hiding it as he did in the old days, is now allowing the post to stay unhidden, and professes to be agnostic about whether or not Wendy's canard is true, and professes to be too busy to be bothered to find out.
Apparently, after the split, SF-IMC is now safe for antisemitica in the name of anti-Zionism.
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See also:
http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2004/02/1675151_comment.php#1675170
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Re: A quick note on SF-IMC |
by gehrig
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03 Feb 2004
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Follow-up:
http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2004/02/1675367.php
... which, naturally, nessie has hidden.
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And Then He Is So Gutless |
by anti-spam
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03 Feb 2004
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That he can only sign his work as "one of the editors".
SF IMC is in a very sad state of affairs as far as compliance with the Indymedia principles of unity. These is absolutely no transparency as far as SF IMC's editorial policy or its enforcement. It's no small wonder that the majority of IMCistas in SF have decided that they'd rather be in an entirely separate IMC, http://sf.indymedia.org/ |
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Re: A quick note on SF-IMC |
by gehrig
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03 Feb 2004
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The surprise is that this same note has been hidden without explanation on sfbay.indymedia.org.
I'm starting to wonder whether the discussion list on antisemitism proposed last December on imc_process might not be a good idea.
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See also:
http://sfbay.indymedia.org/news/2004/02/1669430.php
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Re: A quick note on SF-IMC |
by gehrig
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03 Feb 2004
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Windy Wendy has now tried to defend her "kosher tax" claim with a URL from a Holocaust denial site. What happens next will say a lot about SF-IMC.
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Helpful Repost to Maintain Google Truth |
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15 Mar 2004
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from:
http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2004/01/1673499.php
Wendy Campbell and Holocaust denial
by gehrig Thursday January 22, 2004 at 10:11 AM
Context: Wendy Campbell's supposedly "only anti-Zionist, not antisemitic" website, http://www.exposingisraeliapartheid.com, includes links to a site which is banned here at SF-IMC as a hate site. In particular, the site -- "Jewish Tribal Review" -- has a link to a page of "anti-Zionist" sites. When you click that link, you discover that it is instead a list of antisemitic organizations, most of them Holocaust denial, one of them neo-Nazi. (There is another problematic link on her page, leading to -- among other things -- a scabrous neo-Nazi flyer broadly labeled "White Power," but I'll go into that some other time.)
Now that she knows the nature of the links she's made, Wendy Campbell defends not only her own site but also "Jewish Tribal Review," which she calls an "EXCELLENT" source of information on The Jew's Mind, despite the fact that the editor can't tell anti-Zionism from antisemitism, as judged by the inclusion of that list of Holocaust denial sites.
But Wendy Campbell has gone farther than that. She has also tried to defend the sites of well-known Holocaust denial outfits like IHR, by saying that they're only "Holocaust revisionism." Note that this is an explicit attempt to defend these sites, despite the fact that they are the best-known of the Holocaust denial sites. I address her point below. If she wants to maintain the slightest scrap of credibility on the anti-racism issue, she'd do well to explain why she's defending the purveyors of that form of overt antisemitism known as Holocaust denial.
Windy Out Wendy and Holocaust denial again
by gehrig Wednesday January 21, 2004 at 12:10 PM
Windy Out Wendy: "Holocaust Revisionism is NOT the same as Holocaust Denial. "
Holocaust revisionism is a _euphemism_ for Holocaust denial. That's the little tweed jacket they dress it up in. But take a look at IHR, VHO, CODOH, Hoffie^2, all the rest I named, and they'll agree on the same things:
(1) There was no Nazi genocidal plan to exterminate the Jews.
(2) There was no use of industrial scale gas chambers to murder the Jews.
(3) The actual number of Jews killed was substantially less than six million.
(4) The numbers and the substance of the genocidal crime was fraudulently altered by [insert your favorite euphemism for "the Jews" here].
Now, you apparently believe that some of these points are defensible, if you believe "Holocaust revisionism" is defensible and if these are the central points of Holocaust revisionism.
Which of these points do you consider defensible?
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Re: A quick note on SF-IMC |
by Steve
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28 Mar 2004
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One by one, the loudest "peace-loving" "anti-racist" anti-zionists on sf.indymdia and sfbay are turning out to be rabid anti-semites. At least neo-nazis are honest about their beliefs. The sf.indymedia.org and indybay people hide their true feelings, pretend to be "anti-racist," while pushing an agenda of absolute hate and bias. |
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Re: A quick note on SF-IMC |
by gehrig
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29 Mar 2004
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It's hard not to be troubled by the whole issue of antisemitism on IMCs -- especially when you take a look at a site like Vancouver. They're getting hammered by two antisemitic trolls, and the newswire editor is at wits' end.
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Re: A quick note on SF-IMC |
by Jim
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06 Apr 2004
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Gehrig, why do you think that so many on the far left are obsessed with Jews and Israel? Perhaps its your entire philosophy that's evil, not just a few people. |
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Re: A quick note on SF-IMC |
by gehrig
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06 Apr 2004
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The Jews have an evil philosophy?
Thanks for playing. Try again in thirty days.
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