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The Intelligence Of "Patriots" Current rating: 3
29 Mar 2003
Quote from an angry "Patriot" at the Prospect Street Rally today:

"It's not about oil, don't you watch TV."


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Re: The Intelligence Of Pro-Appeasement
Current rating: -3
29 Mar 2003
johnny,

First and last names are always begun with capital letters. Please make a note of it.

Jack
Re: The Intelligence Of
Current rating: 0
30 Mar 2003
I liked how he called us simpletons and then proceeded to "demonstrate" how we know that this war isn't about oil: oil prices have gone down since the start of the war!

I don't need any more proof, do you?
US Army's Desert Filling Stations Add Fuel To Fire
Current rating: 0
30 Mar 2003
In a war where public perceptions are arguably as important as the military strategy, the US army appears to have handed a huge public relations victory to those who believe the conflict in Iraq is all about oil. The 101st Airborne Division has chosen to name two of its main outposts in the desert Forward Operating Base Exxon and Forward Operating Base Shell.

When US troops seizing the port city of Umm Qasr raised the stars and stripes there last week, they were swiftly ordered to remove it for fear of giving the impression of being conquerors, not liberators.

But Forward Operating Base Shell has caught on so comprehensively that the Washington Post is now carrying it as the dateline in its news reports from the base.

All of which seemed to have baffled representatives of the two oil firms themselves, who only heard about the names when the news reports started to be published.

"Our feeling was that this was clearly not a political statement by the men and women of the 101st Airborne," said Tom Cirigliano, an Exxon spokesman.

"These are desert refueling stations, and they're apparently naming them after oil companies simply because that's what reminds them of filling stations back home. It's a normal practice."

Meanwhile, in southern Iraq, four miles outside Nassiriya, troops have erected a makeshift sign renaming Tallil airfield Bush international airport.

That may, at least, have a satirical intent: Iraq's largest airport, in Baghdad, is called Saddam International.

A spokesman for the Pentagon referred a request for comment to central command's headquarters in Tampa, Florida. A spokesman for its public affairs office claimed, bafflingly, that it was not its policy "to respond to criticisms that people may have".

"This has absolutely nothing to do with the war being about oil, a notion that we think has been debunked by numerous independent analysts - and even in the newspaper Le Monde," Mr Cirigliano insisted.

"Anyway, I'm certain of this: that the restrooms in Camp Exxon are much cleaner than the restrooms in Camp Shell."


© Guardian Newspapers Limited 2003
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
Re: The Intelligence Of
Current rating: -3
31 Mar 2003
Hey Oliver,

Two Questions: Where is love? Secondly, why did we not, simply, invade Iraq the last time and take it? You know full well it is not about Oil, shit for brains. It is about Victory. Enjoy It.

Jack
Re: The Intelligence Of
Current rating: 5
31 Mar 2003
Modified: 07:44:25 PM

It's not entirely about oil, no.

This is more of a demonstration war, intended to show the rest of the world that the United States can kick some major military ass, and so all the little countries better shut up and listen. Of course, having our thumbs on the global oil jugular is a handy way of kicking similar economic ass afterwards - you get too uppity in the economic competition - bam, there goes your economy as we squeeze your energy supplies off. It's not so much that WE need to use the oil, ANWR notwithstanding, but we don't want anyone ELSE to get to it without us being involved as the middlemen. You know, petrodollars and all that. The US hopes to shock and awe the rest of world into giving up any dreams they may have had about competing with the US, in any arena, ever. Bush never wanted peace, that'd just delay his plans.

Of course, whether the demonstration bit works out or not (and that might depend somewhat on just HOW we end up winning the military battle), the other main thing about the oil is that we intend to use it to pay for some of the astronomical costs of this little shindig. We don't have loads of countries piling on with actual $$$, like last time.

Basically, the oil makes the war cheaper.

That said, I'm surprised they went so far as to name stuff after Shell and Exxon, considering that the PR on this war is rather important considering the goals... but there it is, in the Navy Times. My my.