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News :: Civil & Human Rights : Elections & Legislation
Urbana Council Tables Pop Motion to Change City Government Current rating: 0
26 Jul 2004
In a 4-2 vote, the Urbana City Council tabled a hastily composed proposal, backed by Mayor Tod Satterthwaite, to change the form of city government at Monday's council meeting.
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After being asked to vote on a measure so hastily thrown together that council members were never provided with a written copy of the motion to change Urbana's form of city government by adding two at-large seats to the city council, the council tabled the proposal in a 4-2 vote. Voting in favor of the motion to table the resolution formally proposed by Milton Otto were Danielle Chynoweth, Jim Hayes, Laura Huth, and Esther Patt. Voting against the motion to table were Otto and Joe Whelan. Ruth Wyman was absent from the meeting in order to take her bar exam.

Councilmembers were never provided with a copy of the proposed resolution to rewrite Urbana's city government structure. No public hearings were scheduled or asked for by advocates of the proposal, which mainly took shape in the editorial pages of the out-of-town paper, the Champaign News-Gazette.

About two and a half hours of public input preceded the vote, with citizens speaking before the council running more than 2-to-1 against the idea of undermining Urbana's ward system of government. Although the vote ended an evening that saw other city business delayed by the proposal's advocates attempt to grandstand the measure, setting off a firestorm of opposition by Urbana citizens, by calling the question without adequate and measured discussion, it will likley appear on the November ballot anyway, since such a proposal requires only 432 signatures to be placed on the ballot as a referendum.

Proponents of adding at-large seats repeatedly claimed that their idea had nothing to do with politics. This position was undermined by the fact that the proposal popped up immediately after the over-ride of Mayor Tod Satterthwaite's recent veto of Urbana's new ward map, based on the latest census data, which was immediately overridden by councilmembers. Advocates of the proposal made no attempt to ask for an updated census to legally support their claims that the new ward map fails to account for the growth on Urbana's east side nor did they ask to schedule a public hearing with sufficient public notice for both sides to prepare their cases and for council members to take measured reflection on such an important proposition as changing the from of government. The whole affair seems to have sprung from threats the mayor made against those who over-rode his veto, assisted by grumbling from Urbana's Republican minority dissatisfied by their recent also-ran status for nearly every city elected position.

The slap-dash nature of those pushing for the change was evident in the rather tortuous logic that was used to claim that voters in east Urbana were somehow "disenfranchised" without the measure's hasty adoption. No legal justification was offered to support such claims and it was obvious that its boosters had done no research into the possibility that such a change might well trigger suits under the federal Voting Rights Act of 1965.
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Re: Urbana Council Tables Pop Motion to Change City Government
Current rating: 0
27 Jul 2004
First of all, it’s the “Champaign-Urbana News Gazette,” and not an “out-of-town” paper.

Second, have you looked at the numbers? The way the current system is devised, the wards of Danielle Chynoweth, Laura Huth and Jim Hayes and Esther Patt (all located in extremely light voting, student-heavy West Urbana) had a grand total of 1,799 voters actually come out to the polls in 2001. The other three wards, located in rapidly-growing East Urbana, had a voter turn-out total of 2,889.

Doesn’t that look like a disparity to you?

Lets look at politics – Chynoweth, Huth, Hayes and Patt all have a vested self-interest in keeping with the old system. As it stands, these four are of a similar political mindset (nothing wrong there), but they are far more interested in pushing their own agenda than in equal representation of the Urbana population.

The problem here is that students, traditional far more liberal than the resident population, are having their voices count far more than the permanent residents. All this new plan is doing is bringing equality to the voter base. The more conservative, much larger Urbana permanent population’s voices are vested in three representatives.

Perhaps “at-large” positions aren’t the best idea – maybe what we need is more evenly divided and a greater number of single-representative wards, and expand upon them regularly as the census dictates. The actual logistics are beside the point – the fact is that this is a giant disparity and it needs to be rectified.

Now, maybe Otto needs to reevaluate his living situation. However, that is a completely different issue – one that also needs to be addressed seriously, but separately from the new ward map.

The efforts of Chynoweth, et al, are essentially efforts to maintain an arena with which to push their political ideology instead of truly representing the population of Urbana. If liberals and progressives truly want equality, political and otherwise, they would be wise to enact means to let every vote and every political voice be heard equally in the Council chambers.
Re: Urbana Council Tables Pop Motion to Change City Government
Current rating: 0
27 Jul 2004
* rolling eyes *

Can you please name a single city anywhere that factors voter turnout into its districting structure? You can't? Maybe because that's because it's unconstitutional.

And a student's vote in a local election should be gerrymandered into meaningless than a non-student's vote exactly what? Should we as ML suggested at the meeting, adopt a three-fifths compromise, and give each student only three-fifths of a vote? If not, what pro-rated percentage of an actual vote do you think students should be provided? And how do you reconcile that with your final rhetorical gesture about how all votes should be counted equally?

@%<
Conservatives and the "Covenient" Constitution
Current rating: 0
27 Jul 2004
I always find it rather ironic how conservatives wrap themselves in the Constitution when it suits there purposes, then quickly change the subject when it gets in the way of their machinations. There are few clearer examples than this case, where their shoddy arguments to use voter turnout for undermining the consitutional requirement that districts by apportioned according to population are legally inadmissable. The claims by some supporters of this ridiculous end run around the Constitution that the new ward map does not divide the population equally into wards can easily be tested in the court, if they were fact. Since there has been no move to do so by them, this can probably be taken as hard proof that there is no substance to their bogus claims that the eastern wards are somehow being given less than their legal due in the new ward map.
Re: Urbana Council Tables Pop Motion to Change City Government
Current rating: 0
27 Jul 2004
Dear Dose,

I am sure you will agree that if the people decide to put a constitutionally legal referendum on the ballot then the people should get to decide.

Perhaps even the left leaning voter in Urbana is tired of seeing the empty buildings and the fleeing business population. Maybe the want to see their council attrack business and promote growth instead of working on an anti war resolution.

Jack
Re: Urbana Council Tables Pop Motion to Change City Government
Current rating: 0
27 Jul 2004
It's certainly no more ridiculous than calling the president "illegitimate" because we use a flawed electoral college system that gives more weight to some votes than others...but liberals were certainly quick to jump on THAT one and try to change the rules after the game was played...

Alright, the heck with voter turnout...look at sheer population distribution. Bottom line - can you name one city where its considered fair to have one vote count more than others? Any way you cut it, east urbana is getting the shaft in representation.

Or is it something else? Is it maybe that those poor, ignorant conservatives in east urbana don't know what's best for them, so maybe they're better off having a system that ensures that only the "enlightened progressives" are running the show? Certainly Chynowith and company know better than the voters themselves what the city needs.

No one is suggesting, as in MLs sarcastic idea, that anyone should count as "3/5ths of a vote." There's no justification to assume that we're going to use such an asinine idea, drawn from the history that slaves counted as "3/5ths of a person." That comparison seems designed to draw connections to some supposed old white male elitist "good ol' boy" population, a move intended to throw more emotion into an already emotional issue.

All I'm suggesting is that a concerted pan-partisan effort be made to ensure that the wards are equal in representation - students AND locals.

Dose - your idea of hard proof seems to work along the same lines as Michael Moore - "if you can pound a square peg in a round hole, then it must be the right peg."

Its absolutely ridiculous that you people ("progressives") assume that the big, bad establishment is trying to keep you down, but then turn right around and pull the same immoral power-grubbing garbage every time you get a chance.
More BS from the Right
Current rating: 0
27 Jul 2004
Mortland wrote:

"All I'm suggesting is that a concerted pan-partisan effort be made to ensure that the wards are equal in representation - students AND locals. "

And that is exactly what happened when the new ward map was drawn. If it had been any different, there would be a legal challenge making it way through the courts right now.

And that is not happening and won't happen, because the ward map meets all legal requirements. It just doesn't suit those who are in the minority in Urbana.

All the whining from those who support this idea is just crocodile tears, because your assertion has no legal basis, so they chose to engage in public grandstanding -- and lost.

Case closed.

BTW, take Mother Jones' advice, organize, instead of mourning. The dog-and-pony show put on by the mayor was a lame joke. Did anyone really expect the council to vote to approve something that wasn't even put into print? I don't know about you, but any representative who votes for a blank check in government, no matter what their viewpoint or political association, does not deserve to have the public's trust. They (meaning Tod, Otto and Joe Whelan) should go, just like the Congress that voted Bush a blank check for war. You're being scammed (or facilitating a scam) when that happens. You have a right to be a sucker in private life, but it's something that doesn't have a place in any responsible government.

Finally, even ASSUMING it's true (which I dispute), as you say, "Its absolutely ridiculous that you people ("progressives") assume that the big, bad establishment is trying to keep you down, but then turn right around and pull the same immoral power-grubbing garbage every time you get a chance..." then why should progressives unilaterally disarm? If you don't like what you claim is immoral, I suggest that you clean up your own house, before slinging mud at others. I will agree that Champaign County has seen (and still sees) far too much "immoral power-grubbing garbage" from the Republicans that have controlled it for so long. But that is changing. Get used to it.
Re: Urbana Council Tables Pop Motion to Change City Government
Current rating: 0
27 Jul 2004
Ah, I don't claim that the Bush presidency is illegitimate because of the fact that he lost the popular vote but won in the Electoral College. I claim the Bush presidency is illegitimate because of a series of voting irregularities in Florida that provided a compelling reason for a complete Florida recount were swept aside by the Supreme Court.

"Alright, the heck with voter turnout...look at sheer population distribution. Bottom line - can you name one city where its considered fair to have one vote count more than others?"

Can you name one city in which the districts are _exactly_ equal? And can you name one city in which citizens don't have access to legal recourse if they believe the ward mapping is insufficiently representative?

But maybe you can tell me more about how equitable a system is in which, by definition, two out of seven wards will have two Council members apiece living there, and the other five will only have one?

@%<
My Public Comments Last Night
Current rating: 0
27 Jul 2004
I was asked to post the text of my comments last night. Here they are.
ML


I am a resident of Ward 5, which is a mostly working class, east Urbana ward. I am also a 17-year resident of Urbana and, by the way, currently a student at the University of Illinois. And I always vote and always encourage every student to vote. In recent decades, every one of Ward 5’s council representatives has lived WEST of Vine Street. It is simply ridiculous that someone sees this as a problem, when we have been happy to elect effective representatives, most recently Laura Huth, from there. Perhaps that is the problem for some people – she has effectively represented our interests.

Much has been made of the fact that several of the current council members live relatively close to each other, yet each was elected to represent their respective wards. It is an illusion to claim that this fact somehow means that they have acted only in the interest of those living close to Leal School. I challenge those supporting this proposal to present ANY substantive evidence that these good people have favored this part of the city over the city as a whole.

This whole affair is a bogus issue with no legal basis. Perhaps those pushing this can be more explicit in describing the political basis of this misguided proposition, because that is what this is all about – a power struggle initiated against elected representatives who have acted independently in the best interests of their constituents.

Just to demonstrate the level of pettiness involved, despite the recent rather public relations campaign to initiate this dramatic shift in the political process in Urbana, it is my understanding, at least as of last night our council members had not even been provided with the text of tonight’s proposition. There are no public hearings scheduled, simply a campaign of rhetorical sophistry from an out of town newspaper that shall remain nameless. They should be reminded this is Urbana, not East Champaign. And most damning from the point of view of the fair democratic process, those most affected by having their representation curtailed, students at the University, are out of town, even though each of them is legally entitled to every bit as much representation as the wealthiest homeowner in Stone Creek. Only totalitarian governments operate in such fashion. I presume that our council will react tonight as any American would to such chicanery, given the chance – they will oppose it.

If there really is growth in east Urbana that requires a reassessment of the ward maps, as has been claimed, why has the mayor not requested a special census, so that this decision can be made based on facts? Because those pushing this idea know that the facts will likely not sustain their tendentious arguments, despite these claims that have been repeated here tonight. We recently went to war, on the basis of fabricated evidence, looking for WMDs that did not exist. What is being proposed is like a snipe hunt, in search of a Weapon of Mock Democracy.

In many ways, this raises the odor of past corruptions in our political system. Are students entitled to only three-fifths as much representation as the tiny cabal supporting this ill-conceived idea? Are Jim Hayes’ constituents supposed to just shut up and suck it up, when many of their forebears sadly have already been subjected to such twists, as this proposition at least partially resurrects this dishonorable political idea of disguised unequal representation that dishonors us all? This proposal definitely raises issues concerning application of the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Those proposing this may wish to cheap out and flim-flam us without paying for a special census, but do they have a budget for defending this boondoggle in federal court, if it should disgracefully come to pass in our fair city?

If there is not enough representation on this council for the tastes of some, then let’s go back to the way things used to be in Urbana, with TWO council members per ward. This would at least by a legitimate argument that does not diminish anyone’s influence at the expense of another. Maybe we should have a _choice_ in November between the sham of at-large representation of two representatives per ward to ensure a diverse council.

Finally, let’s look at the root of the problem. In the last city election, overall voter turnout was less than 13% of the city’s overall population (I wish I had an exact figure for percentage of registered voters, but Mark Shelden’s lame website could not provide that.)* It true there were a few hundred more people voting in the wards favored under this plan than in the others, but it was still nothing to brag about – the level of turnout is only a few percent more than the wards that are alleged to be a problem.

It would seem to be more useful to run a serious, city-wide get-out-the vote drive, if the concern is really about fair, adequate representation. Yet, the law provides for the drawing of electoral districts SOLELY on the basis of population as enumerated in the latest census figures, regardless of how convenient it may seem to some to do it otherwise. Instead, we see this disgraceful proposal, because a few people seem to think they can do otherwise to suit their personal political goals. There is no legal basis for such a proposition and there is no legal basis to undermine the democratic process in our city.


* Another speaker claimed that the percentage of registered voters IS available on the County Clerk’s website, but it is NOT for the last city election in April 2001. perhaps it is for more recent elections. The HTML link that provides the April 2001 election results does not have the percentage of registered voters and the PDF link gave an error message last night and is still broken today.
Re: Urbana Council Tables Pop Motion to Change City Government
Current rating: 0
31 Jul 2004
The fact remains that 1300 voters elected 4 represenatives for 60,000 people. I should think that you would want the other 58,700 people to have a voice in government as well.

They may not like all of the empty buildings in Urbana that used to be what we would call a business. Does that word sound familiar???

Jack
Re: Urbana Council Tables Pop Motion to Change City Government
Current rating: 0
31 Jul 2004

I f the problem is that a small number of people are going out to the polls and actually choosing the government, the solution should be to increase voter turnout across the board.

I am hearing conflicting voices - some people claim that students are overrepresented, while others are claiming that because students are NOT voting in large numbers, it is the non-student members of the student-heavy wards who are being overrepresented. Which is it? If it's the latter (which seems more in keeping with the documented tales of low voter turnout in the campus PRECINCTS) then it should be asked, would the silent part of the ward really vote all that differently from the louder part of the ward that is getting the "overrepresentation"? Dunno.

Either way, if a ward has a silent population such that the "loud other half" of the ward is getting their voice to "count for more," then the solution is canvas that ward hard and get those silent members out to vote, so that we can hear THEIR voices.

The solution is NOT to add at-large members, who will simply be elected by the most active, loud voters from across the entire city. Doing that only gives the people who are already voting even MORE of a loud voice! You are proposing making up for the "silent" people in ward X with entirely different "loud" voices from wards Y and Z.

If the loud people in ward X need their voices evened out, it must be by getting the silents in ward X to speak up, not giving people in wards Y and Z "equivalent extra representation".

As for the argument that the population on the south side of the city is increasing rapidly, so what? Representation is based on the population, not the rate of change of the population, and it is not permitted to "project" populations into the future to try and draw a map that is designed for two years from now. If the change is truly rapid, perhaps the city might undertake extra censuses so that the maps are updated every 5 years rather than 10, but the maps must be drawn from actual measures and not projections. Either way, the south side is not the only area increasing in population - like it or not, there are several "mega" apartment complexes going up on the west side of Urbana, and there are plans for projects in downtown Urbana as well (although, as Stone Creek has proven, one can never tell if these things are going to pan out).

Finally, I thought Danielle Chynoweth had a quite relevant final question - where the heck did the "two" come from? Why not go to an all at-large system, or one at large, or three? If we're going there, why not abolish the entire thing and have a purely proportional representation system? There are interesting arguments to be had about all of those schemes, but they weren't brought up, and none of it was written down. I suspect someone looked at Champaign with its three at large seats and thought, "well, Urbana is kinda 2/3 the size of Champaign, so let's go for two" but who knows. Nobody knows, that's who, and that's the problem.

Foreman Steals a Page from the Bush Playbook: Repeat a Lie Often Enough and People Might Believe You
Current rating: 0
01 Aug 2004
The News-Gazette continued its attack on Urbana in its Sunday, August 1 edition. John Foreman pressed on with his long-running feud with nearly all things Urbana, joined by Tom Kacich, with an editorial desert by fleabag landlord Gabriel Omo-Osagie.

Foreman's column was a follow-up to last week's boosterism of the at-large council seat idea, so that Urbana would become more comfortably like Champaign in Foreman's eyes. Basically, Foreman goes on, paragraph after paragraph, fussing, fuming, and fulminating about how progressives on the Urbana City Council were blocking the democratic process and free exercise of voting privileges by their opposition to a vague plan to add two at-large seats to the Urbana council. Near the very end of the story, we get the rest of the story... the vote to table the plan at Monday's council meeting, as reported above, blocked nothing, impeded no one, and certainly did nothing to keep the at-large seat question off the ballot in November.

What should be questioned is where is the News-Gazette's usual hard-core stance against governmental secrecy in all this? I would think, if the N-G was really true to their rhetoric of being the guardian of the people against government excess and secrecy, that Foreman would've filed a freedom of information inquiry demanding the text of the proposal from the person who advanced it, Milton Otto. After all, everyone is just dying to find out what was being proposed, since noen of the councilmebers was provided with a copy nor was the public ever able to see in writing what was being proposed.

Instead, the N-G veers off on a tangent. They know that demanding a written copy of the proposal would be useless, since those offering the idea up for a vote did not take it seriously enough to even bother writing it down. Council members were being asked to vote for a blank check. I can hear what the News-Gazette would be saying if anyone other the Urbana council was to vote on anything other than this blank check to change the structure of government in Urbana with next to no public notice. The N-G would be demanding an investigation, rallying voters, turning out headlines screaming "Urbana Liberals vote for Blank Check" and showing up in court with their attorney to demand immediate access to the document being scandalously hidden from the public.

None of that has happened nor is it going to happen. The News-Gazette is a party to this fraud and doesn't want the public to know the facts, thus it provides three more columns of political grandstanding nearly devoid of factual information on the subject this Sunday to match what the mayor and his supporters hastily threw together in a dog-and-pony show last Monday. Instead, the N-G continues its attack on Urbana by adding Kacich and Omo-Osagie to the fray. Kacich claims that the arguments of those who oppposed the at-large measure are "seriously falwed and easily disproven." He mostly repeats the anecdotes of the few who spoke in favor of the motion before the council on Monday, with a twist or two of his own.

There was nothing new in what Kacich wrote and it proved hardly anything except Kacich's naked partisanship on the issue. In the end, he did concede that a new census would legally be needed in order to draw any other ward map than has already been drawn -- something which he then blamed opponents of the measure for not doing. One would think that if one were proposing to change things, instead of just whine about them, those in favor of what they claim to be "fairer" representation of the east side of Urbana should have taken the initiative themselves to ask for a new census. The fact that they did NOT, nor did they provide a WRITTEN copy of what they were asking the council to vote on, proves the opposite of what Kacich claims. That is, it was those who supported the at-large proposal who were _never serious_ about passing the measure when it was hastily rushed onto the agenda for last Monday's vote.

Finally, we get a general condemnation of "Liberals on Urbana Council" from Gabriel Omo-Osagie. Here's a man who claims that when people have called him the n-word are only demonstrating prejudice, not racism, when they have done so. One has to wonder about the tenuous connection to reality that someone who would make this preternaturally gracious judegment about the motivations of anyone who would use such language to his face. Yet, Omo-Osagie claims that it is the liberals on the Urbana council who are good for a laugh, not those who presume they can present unwritten ordinances and then expect the blank sheet of paper to be seriously debated as to its pros and cons.

Left unsaid is Omo-Osagie's long record of complaints by his tenants about his often dirty and poorly maintained student apartments, something which no doubt takes an inordinate amount of councilmember Esther Patt's time on her day job as head of the Tenant Union. Could Omo-Osagie's laughable assertion that racism and discrimination wouldn't exist if it weren't for liberals really be just sour grapes about other issues he has with a councilmember or two, but which go unmentioned by him? Our readers (and Omo-Osagie's tenants) can decide for themselves.
Re: Urbana Council Tables Pop Motion to Change City Government
Current rating: 0
19 Aug 2004
Always love to see Foreman's Snooze-Gazoo (News Gazette) lambasted. Cham-bana's so-called "news" paper. What an embarrassment, and another lingering vestige of Champaign County's good ol' boy network.

Keep smackin' 'em down, ML, always a pleasure to see those right-wing roaches exposed for what they really are. Bloated, blind supporters of the status quo.

Also really been enjoying UCIMC's coverage of the city council's recent "at large seats" shenanigans.

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